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Yep, I do. These rights are extended to all the "people" that make up the religious institutions, non-profit entities, schools or corporations thereby the organizations have these same rights. Take away the people and they lose these rights.
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Only insofar as the constitution specifically includes them... IMHO
They have no right to pretend the constitution protects them by attempting to identify themselves as individuals and claim protection under the Bill of Rights. And I agree that without the "people" these entities are not protected. .
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![]() Ahem... Quite right, Dean. But perhaps certain of us might do well to recall the preamble to The US Constitution. Please pay particular attention to the FIRST THREE WORDS... : We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. |
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In his opinion there is no reason to believe that the Second Amendment uses the term "the people" differently from the other four amendments. honestly - to think these word smiths used the term "PEOPLE" in WE THE PEOPLE and 4 other amendments but meant something completely different in just the second amendment stretches credibility even for an activist judge
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Regarding individual gun rights and the Second Amendment,
I think it does too, but it is not as clear a statement as some would believe or act like they believe and you have to go beyond the words of the amendment to reach that conclusion. Scalia thought so too and he wrote the landmark and narrow majority Heller decision with that in mind. He was perhaps the best friend gun owners could have. With him gone and more people turning against gun owners because of wacko shootings we lose public goodwill. Some people are willing to take all gun owners down with them because they want their butt ugly Bushmasters, ARs, AKs and the like. Because of these military style weapons the public turns against us and may fail to distinguish one gun from another. The AK and AR crowd tells us we must stand together, no wonder , they need the support now for the problems these weapons have created. |
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Think Heller was the right decision but I disagree with Citizens United. Unless corporations can be held to the same responsibilities as an individual they should not enjoy the same protections.
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" Some people are willing to take all gun owners down with them because they want their butt ugly Bushmasters, ARs, AKs and the like. " Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Also, united we stand, divided we fall. Some of us like Parkers, some pistols, some target rifles; but let us not disregard anyone's gun rights just because we don't play their game or like the way their gun looks. I never saw a AR jump up and shoot anyone all by itself.
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