VH serial # vs Rem code

[Bill Murphy]

This is really interesting. Apparently, this gun was made before the V Grade engraving pattern had been finalized and the P pattern was being used. We would have to see more early Vs to determine when the standard V engraving pattern was first used. This is the seventh V Grade made by Parker Brothers. We need to see more V Grades in this serial number block.

[Autumn Daze]

I agree Bill. Very interesting.

[Dean Romig]

Grade 1 hammerless guns with Twist barrels were listed as PT

The first fluid steel Parker hammerless gun was the V with Vulcan Steel barrels and may have initially been a Grade 1 as well but with the choice of Vulcan Steel barrels. but.....

we have seen VH Parkers with both Twist and Damascus barrels.

Investigation continues...

[Autumn Daze]

Yes but why would the water table be stamped V if it was a rebarreled P?

[Dean Romig]

I never suggested it was a rebarreled P. What I did suggest was the possobility of ordering a P (Grade 1) with the brand new fluid steel "Vulcan Steel" barrels, hence the stamp on the water table. I'm only suggesting this as a possibility in the earliest stage of fluid steel barreled Parkers. Soon thereafter the Vulcan Steel barreled Parker got its own designation and became the VH and took its place as the Grade-0 without the engraving embellishment of the Grade 1.

All pure speculation on my part.

[Autumn Daze]

Interesting ...The book states that 88234 is a V grade gun with a capped pistol grip stock 12 gauge with 30" barrels. The two guns preceeding this are the same configuration but P grades. Hmmm. A clue?

[George M. Purtill Member #28]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

I never suggested it was a rebarreled P. What I did suggest was the possobility of ordering a P (Grade 1) with the brand new fluid steel "Vulcan Steel" barrels, hence the stamp on the water table. I'm only suggesting this as a possibility in the earliest stage of fluid steel barreled Parkers. Soon thereafter the Vulcan Steel barreled Parker got its own designation and became the VH and took its place as the Grade-0 without the engraving embellishment of the Grade 1.

All pure speculation on my part.

Put the Hookah away Deano.

[Bill Murphy]

At least one of the early Vulcan barrelled guns was a BH and still has its Vulcan barrels intact. It shows up in the book as a V5 as it should. When the Vulcan barrels appeared on the scene, all bets were off as far as uniformity.

[Ed Brackett]

Gents, thanks to all of you for your inputs, it has been very instructive for me in tracking down this particular Parker.

Couple of notes:
O.H., yes, the head of the stock is darker from oil and handleing.
Dave, the gun has a capped pistol grip and 30" full & full chokes.
Bill, either the very early VH guns used P engraving as a marketing feature OR they used the P engraving until the standard VH 0 grade engraving was finalized. Not sure we will know for sure.

I'll get the gun back to the owner with your excellent comments. He will be very pleased to have a better ubderstanding of the history of this family heirloom.

Regards, Ed

[Dean Romig]

As are each of the previous six V's, 88220 (the very first V), 88226, 88227, 88228, 88229, 88230. I don't know if this tells us anything but there appears to be a pattern.