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Unread 12-22-2012, 03:23 PM   #1
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YES ! Im sorry !! Just venting I guess , no hard feeling. Im done with it.
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I would have preferred that WL said something like "the NRA stands ready to work with Vice President Biden's Commission, participate in its membership to bring realistic approaches and solutions to this kind of violence". He wasn't as politic as I would have hoped. The NRA could better influence this so-called commission if it was directly involved and contributing rather than be seen as the outside influence to be ignored and demagogued. (did I spell that right?). I'd rather see the NRA inside the tent rather than putting their match to it from the outside...
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I would have preferred that WL said something like "the NRA stands ready to work with Vice President Biden's Commission, participate in its membership to bring realistic approaches and solutions to this kind of violence". He wasn't as politic as I would have hoped. The NRA could better influence this so-called commission if it was directly involved and contributing rather than be seen as the outside influence to be ignored and demagogued. (did I spell that right?). I'd rather see the NRA inside the tent rather than putting their match to it from the outside...
Alan, that's what I had hoped would happen. It was an opportunity for WL to offer to work with congress instead of against them. Then I heard what was proved and I was absolutely floored.

While I have the floor, I have no patience for those who question my commitment to firearm ownership just because I have been vocal in my criticism of WL and the NRA. Your intolerance speaks volumes about your personal character and the fact that you blindly follow the NRA without question tells me exactly the kind of person you are (a lemming) and ultimately your blind faith will be what costs us our rights as gun owners.
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I hope you are not directing the last paragraph in my direction. I certainly am not questioning your commitment to firearm ownership. Don't understand your last paragraph. It's over the top if it's directed my way.
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Allen, my comments were not directed at you.
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If it were not for the NRA none of us would own guns at this time. Call us lemmings if you like, but you sir are the miss-guided one.
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If it were not for the NRA none of us would own guns at this time. Call us lemmings if you like, but you sir are the miss-guided one.
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Sure. But for the NRA the 2nd A would have been erased from the Bill of Rights. I assume you took Civics 101 in high school. As I said earlier, the inability to stand any criticism of the NRA's tactics and policies will ultimately lead to the decline in the relevance and power of the organization.
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Sure. But for the NRA the 2nd A would have been erased from the Bill of Rights. I assume you took Civics 101 in high school. As I said earlier, the inability to stand any criticism of the NRA's tactics and policies will ultimately lead to the decline in the relevance and power of the organization.
Jay, I myself have criticized some of the tactics or quotes from the NRA over the last thirty five years that I have been a life member. But then how can we expect an organization with as many members as it, to please every single one? There is no way, everyone has their own opinion. That being said, they were fighting for my and your rights and regardless of their tactics they have managed to preserve them for a lot of years. Like them or not, join them in the battle, who else is going to fight this for us?
Mark, I agree with you on the violent games that glorify killing with no remorse or regard. Most of the children and young adults that use these games have no real experience with firearms. I taught my sons proper gun handling and safety and took them afield as much as I could when they were young. Now they are young adults and I'm sure they have played some of these games, but at least I know they have a strong foundation of proper firearms use. Education is a key factor here.
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For many of us there is a growing sense and awareness that the underlying principles that have driven our culture are being abandones or at the least are slipping away. The results of the last election reinforce this awareness. The 'Greatest Generation' and the political leadership that sprang from this generation has all but left us. Where are the principled politicians in our national govenment who operate on the Constitution first and Partyy second or even third? There's an ever growing population of citizens (and others) who apparently believe the government exists to make their life easier, solve their problems. You know what I mean. We no longer enjoy a free and unbiased independant journalist media (Fox News may be the exception) We would know very little about the reporting/investigating on the Benghazi attack if it weren't for Fox News. Imagine that occuring 40 years ago. The NRA which has fought so long and hard to protect our right to own and bear arms is now going to face probably it's greatest challenge. Given the cultural changes and backdrop, the high emotionally charged reaction to the school children shooting one Party's proclivity to pander for more votes, there no doubt will be a full court press to limit the rights we have gained under the Second Amendment. We are in for a rough ride and we all need to stick together. God save the US of A.
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In regards to having an armed guard at our schools, consider the fact that there has never been a successful terror type mass killing at.....A GUN CLUB!!! Now we can go back to Parkers. Thank you all and thank the NRA for funding the validation of the 2nd amendment as an individual right in the recent Supreme Court cases.
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