shotgun shell ??? - Page 2

ch · 12-08-2009, 08:21 AM

Harry

Got some shells coming. The ol girl has left firing spring issue, feels almost like its gone. Going 2 soak with pb can't believe it will come out easy. But the firing pin floats real easy, if it is in win I close it and just use it 4 emergancies (bet i spelled that wrong) probably b all right? How did u know my gun had a stright grip?

THANKS AGAIN 4 THE HELP MAKING THIS A LOT EASIER...ch

Harry Collins · 12-08-2009, 08:55 AM

Calvin,

The "Parker Gun Serialization and Identification" book had your Parker listed and told the grade, guage, stock and barrel length.

Now do you mean that the left firing pin has an issue? I have encountered several that were broken! The thing is "dog leg" looking and my blacksmith said it looked like a small crank shaft. I just posted a picture of it on another post and will post the picture of it again. It is easy to replace, but be sure to grind your screw driver to exact fit.

Harry

ch · 12-08-2009, 01:57 PM

Harry,

If the chambers are not 2 3/4 are they always 2 5/8 on old parkers. Want 2 get a good fit if possable win I get some brass hulls. (sorry about my spelling jest an ol flatlander who dosen't have that gift). The barrells on circle fly are mighty pretty.
Can I ask the grade of it. were they ever left in the white?
Got the firing pin out spring was used up. Got 1 at parts store I think I can make work 4 now. ch

Harry Collins · 12-09-2009, 10:57 AM

Calvin,

I'm not sure about the chamber length's through the years. I believe 12 gauge Parkers ranged from 2 1/2" to 2 3/4". I think many of the old girls were 2 9/16". I'm really trying to bait the knowledgable ones into responding on this. Sherman Bell did a lot of research reguarding pressures caused by black powder, smokeless powder and shells longer than chamber. He stated that a 2 3/4" shell in a 2 1/2" chamber would only jump pressure about 300 psi. I shoot appropriate pressure and velocity 2 3/4" smokeless loads through my 1881 Lifter 12 gauge Parker with Twist barrels on a very regular basis. I'm talking about 100+ rounds at sporting clays weekly. There are many here that do the same and many here that would not shoot a Twist or Damascus gun for all the tea in China.

Harry

Here is a picture of mine at work.....

ch · 12-10-2009, 08:09 AM

Harry,
Mine shows her age more than yours. Hate 2 b a pain but what did they call the grade of that gun. Was the metal ever left in the white.

Harry Collins · 12-10-2009, 08:43 AM

The locks and frame and forend iron were case colored, the triggerguard was a niter blue and I'm not sure about the butt plate, but my 10 gauge has been case colored. I think a hundred thirty years ago these guns were worked daily and that is why the barrels and locks and trigger guard and forend iron are in the white. It was all worn off as was the checkering.

The Twist steel Parkers were 0 or grade 1, Grade 2 Parkers were by and large Damascus guns.

Harry

Autumn Daze · 12-10-2009, 10:45 AM

The steel buttplate was blued.

Harry Collins · 12-10-2009, 11:32 AM

Dave,

Thanks, I have been wondering about that. My Uncle Taylor had Del Grego re do the old 10 gauge years ago. The barrels and trigger guard bow were blued and the rest was cyanide case colored. I've sence sent the barrels to Dale and had them redone.

Harry

Autumn Daze · 12-10-2009, 11:49 AM

Thanks Harry, But I must digress a little. My belief is that they were rust blued. But I have also heard that they were nitre blued. Problem is I don,t remember where I heard that.

ch · 12-12-2009, 08:27 AM

Hello,
Not that I want 2 try this, but can anyone tell me about cyanide case coloring. so many old ways of doing things are gone. Just would like 2 know, 2 just know. Dad gum shotgun shells didn't come am i ever going 2 shoot this ol gun. Better take the boy deer hunting got a b on test. have a good day. ch