Model 12 winchester 16 ga.

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by Jay Gardner

Late Saturday afternoon I pulled out my M12 and off we went. No birds pointed or flushed so I didn't get to shoot it but just carrying it felt very right. Certainly not like carrying a well balanced double, but very pleasurable in it's on special way.

When I was turning 13 I spotted a 16 ga M12 in the rack of the local sporting good store and I begged my dad to get it for me for my birthday. He didn't get it for me but he did give me a 20 ga Wingmaster for Christmas that year. (he thought the 16 might be a little much for a first shotgun) I have loved and cherished that Wingmaster for 40-years but that 16 ga M12 haunted me for years. A few years ago I had a chance to pick one up and I didn't hesitate. I just wish I took it out more often.

Me Too!

Around here the clays, trap and skeet shooting is fantastic, with several nice clubs nearby. A great sporting clays range that the require that you rent a golf cart. The only hunting that I can find is off in Condon, OR and it costs thousands and thousands of dollars to shoot there...like $4000 for two days and three nites. So that's out.

Where I grew up we just drove out into the country and shot pheasants from within the brambles alongside the road, we'd get our limit. Stop the car and walk up, guns at high port. Bird flushes BANG got'em. No dog. We let hens go. All wild birds too and tough, you had to hit them hard with 5s or 6s. Tail feathers nearly as long as your arm.

[charlie cleveland]

i love to hear about these old guns...ive got a model 12 12 ga thats got a cutts full choke on it...makes the gun look ugly but will put a lot of holes in a tin can or should i say aluminum can...these model 12 s sure handle good..would like to get a old 20 ga some day... charlie

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland

i love to hear about these old guns...ive got a model 12 12 ga thats got a cutts full choke on it...makes the gun look ugly but will put a lot of holes in a tin can or should i say aluminum can...these model 12 s sure handle good..would like to get a old 20 ga some day... charlie

I recall a Model 12, 12 ga that I saw at a gun show once. It was in fine condition, but had that Cutts out there and the barrel was short. So no one paid any attention to the gun, but I should have bought it. It was under $200. IMO the Cutts isn't so bad. Pretty ugly tho! LOL So you shoot it when no one is watching.

[charlie cleveland]

steve its funny you mentioning the old model 12 with the cutts on it i was just looking at it today...it was still ugly...but as you said i shoot it when aint nobody lookin and dont tell nobody...the model 12 is surely a fine gun... heh and i found the old humpback 20 ga pump gona try it out on crows soon..i can quit blamin my grandson now for gettin it... charlie

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland

steve its funny you mentioning the old model 12 with the cutts on it i was just looking at it today...it was still ugly...but as you said i shoot it when aint nobody lookin and dont tell nobody...the model 12 is surely a fine gun... heh and i found the old humpback 20 ga pump gona try it out on crows soon..i can quit blamin my grandson now for gettin it... charlie

If it quits raining I'm on the trap range tomorrow morning. I am going to shoot a 1955 well worn Superposed that I bought a decade ago. Have yet to shoot it and it is well beat up. I paid way too much for it and just looking at it makes me mad. My fault, of course. No one forced me to buy the gun and I wanted a Superposed. Always have.

However, it is a long tang 3" gun with the original butt pad. Has 30 inch barrels F&M. The gun is worn white at the balance where everyone holds a Superposed and when I flip the lever she drops right open, all the way. So the gun is well used. I don't know what the chokes measure now. Does heavy shooting open them up? Seems logical to me. I'll try the open barrel first on trap and she how she works. Just for grins, I'll shoot it with Fiocchi spreaders at skeet.

The gun seems to fit me pretty well and it has a kinda high comb. Single bead. Solid rib. LOP feels right. My eye lines up a bit high, so I look down the rib, so she should shoot a tad high. I like that.

I have not taken a picture of it, or I'd post it. I'll do it tomorrow.

Some people avoid the Superposed because they are heavy and indeed they are heavy. They are also complex with a very interesting break down feature. The barrel slides off forward along with its forearm. Different.

When I was a kid I used to drool over Sterlingworths and never thought that I'd ever own one. Now I do, but she is far from fine. I wonder how she'll shoot?

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland

steve its funny you mentioning the old model 12 with the cutts on it i was just looking at it today...it was still ugly...but as you said i shoot it when aint nobody lookin and dont tell nobody...the model 12 is surely a fine gun... heh and i found the old humpback 20 ga pump gona try it out on crows soon..i can quit blamin my grandson now for gettin it... charlie

Great Charlie! Tell us how that old 20 ga humpback shoots.