What's everyone using for ammo these days?

[Bruce Day]

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[George M. Purtill Member #28]

Originally Posted by Bruce Day

George , why don't you just follow the Parker service load tables in TPS? That's why they are published there. I've reproduced them serveral time here and regularly show them to others at our Parker exhibitions. They are appropriate for both fluid and damascus steel barrels.
Also and imho if an STS 1 oz or 1 1/8 oz load at 1150 fps is too much pressure for your gun then you shouldn't be shooting the gun. I am not aware of any 12 ga Parker that was not designed to shoot such a load.
As always reference to the Parker tables is best and preferable to opinions of others. Go to the source.

Bruce
What in tarnation are you talking about? I didn't say the STS loads are too much for any gun i own. Where is that in my post? I went to STS specifically for the short hulls. Please explain what you are thinking in critiquing my post.

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

Oh no!!! Two lawyers in "discusssion"!

[Bruce Day]

Sorry I must be stupid. I meant Chris, not George. I deleted the post and will avoid responses to people I don't know in the future.

[Bill Murphy]

John D., your new anti-delete program finally paid for itself. It worked on the fellow it was intended to work for, Checkbook Bruce. He got caught in his own trap. OOPS, Bruce has succeeded in deleting his post, and as always, confusing the sense of the thread. Congratulations again, Bruce. Your affair with some of the other checkwriters is confusing to the rest of us. What is the attraction? Of course, you are always welcome at the Murphy house, in case I am missing something.

[Leighton Stallones]

I think the 1 1/8 is too much recoil for the gun and the shooter. I use both 7/8 and 1 oz at 1150-1180 and they break targets just as well as the heavier loads.
Most everyone that I know now use 1 oz as they pattern better and are as/or more effective than the 1 1/8.

[Bill Murphy]

LS, you are so right. There are now two companies making 3/4 ounce wads for 12 gauge shells. When I get low on my Federal SO wads which are the wads to use for 7/8 and 1 ounce loads, I will buy a case of the 3/4 ounce wads. If you don't shoot for money, and/or shoot very tight choked guns, 3/4 ounce loads are more than enough.

[Bruce Day]

Chris called and we discussed what Parker stated and where the references are. Again I apologize to Mr Purtil for mistakingly directing my response to him instead of Chris. It won't happen again.

And with Mr Murphy, again I have no idea what he is talking about with some kind of a fictional "no delete" program. As for the name he calls me "Checkbook Bruce", if he is implying that I have paid fair market value for most of my Parkers, with the exception of two that I was given, yes that's what I have done. I've not taken advantage of anybody and I am fortunate to have friends who have offered me guns at reasonable values as I have done in turn to others. I don't see what's wrong with that, but I am looking at the world through my eyes. Out of all the Parkers I have acquired, only one has been on the open market. All others have come through friends and word of mouth. I doubt there are more than a few close friends who know what I have paid for any gun, and I sincerely doubt they have talked. I realize that some people get some sort of self verification or build themselves up in status if they can get something of value for almost nothing , to take advantage of somebody else, somebody who is foolish, or uneducated, or a widow soon after the death of her husband, or somebody down on their luck and desperate for cash. If by the nickname given me "Checkbook Bruce" it means that I don't do that, well I suppose I'll answer to that. Yes, I have a checkbook and have used it in the past to acquire a few nice guns at fair value.

[Jeff Christie]

Bruce- Your are both 1/ an officer and 2/ a gentleman. There is nothing wrong with being fair and honest. This is not a game for 'Cheap Charlies'. I agree with your philosophy. Jeff

[Big D]

"if you do the math, you cannot reload 12 guage as cheap as you can buy them"
My MBA thinks differently than your CPA. I'm loading for about $4.10, and can't find shells (even at Wally World) for less that about $6 out the door (and my reloads are better quality than promo loads).