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Unread 04-18-2025, 05:02 PM   #1
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So my old 870 , is cool with TSS, but a SSS is not . Has metallurgy declined?The SSS is chrome steel, and has more open chokes, if large steel shot that doesnt compress is ok thru it why would the small shot size 9s be a problem. I could understand if you were shooting 4s or larger.
Are the Mossberg .410s a higher quality barrel that tungsten is ok thru them?
Puzzling to me, not saying anybody is wrong, but will have to look more into this.
Anyway, will be out tomorrow turkey opener shooting TSS9s thru my 870 full choke
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I shoot TSS through my Remington turkey pump gun with turkey full choke. Same with the Savage .410 single shot, full choke. Modern chokes, modern barrel steel. No issues. I wouldn’t shoot it out of my tight choked Parkers. 1 1/2 oz of TSS through an old choke at .035-.046 might be an issue. Same for steel out of those tight chokes. Something possibly might give and it won’t be TSS or steel.
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Many have mentioned using TSS in single barrel guns with no problems. Our vintage doubles have barrels attached to a top and bottom rib using solder which stands up to the loads of the day for many years with no damage.How will this stand up to a type of shot unknown in the time they were made?
I would be concerned about the ribs coming loose. Do the currently made O/U that are made for steel use soft solder to connect the ribs? I would just use a modern single barrel gun or stay with lead and get them close as we have always done.
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I would like to thank everyone who chimed in on my question. I was thinking of using the TSS shot this turkey season. I thought it would be cool to shoot a turkey with my Parker Reproduction with it but I think with all the reasons given I will not use TSS in my gun. Thanks again, Steve
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I would call some of the small manufacturers of TSS loads and check on the wadding. Usually the wads are so thick there is never any contact between the shot and the bore. Number 9s in TSS (what I use) inside a thick wad cannot hurt anything, and they will load you lighter loads. There really is no need for 1 3/4 ounces of TSS 9s in a 3" or even 1 1/2 ounce in a 2 3/4" 12 gauge. You may find that they have 1 1/8 or 1 1/4 ounce TSS loads available. I loaded 1 1/4 ounce of TSS and shot it through a vintage Parker and Ithaca NID and also 1 ounce in 20 gauge and shot it through a Sterlingworth and a Trojan. No damage due to the shot being so small. double wadded, and the load is completely enclosed and actually far down inside the wadding. One ounce loads of TSS contain 362 pellets, and have the energy of 5s. That's why people are killing turkeys at 40 yards wit a .410 and 15/16 ounce.
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Jerry, I agree with you. I don't see any reason why it couldn't be shot thru a SSS with its more open chokes
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Steve,
I know this a bit off topic but forget the high tech payloads and work up a good lead load. Millions of birds have been harvested the good old way....with lead. Enjoy it while you can. Good luck and just stay still.
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I know this a bit off topic but forget the high tech payloads and work up a good lead load. Millions of birds have been harvested the good old way....with lead. Enjoy it while you can. Good luck and just stay still.
That’s true, but I can easily one shot kill a bird hanging up at 80 yards with #8 TSS. Can’t do that with lead #5. It’s the confidence knowing my pattern will jelly-head a bird at that distance that causes me to use TSS.
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That’s true, but I can easily one shot kill a bird hanging up at 80 yards with #8 TSS. Can’t do that with lead #5. It’s the confidence knowing my pattern will jelly-head a bird at that distance that causes me to use TSS.
I can appreciate that and what ever works for you and your gun is fair game. I've always enjoyed the close encounters of the feathered kind. I love decoying birds in as close as possible, be they waterfowl or turkeys. Besides, where I hunt a clear 35yd shot is a long way for a strutting Tom.
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I can appreciate that and what ever works for you and your gun is fair game. I've always enjoyed the close encounters of the feathered kind. I love decoying birds in as close as possible, be they waterfowl or turkeys. Besides, where I hunt a clear 35yd shot is a long way for a strutting Tom.
You hunting among the phragmites??
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