Dolls Head/Rib Extension Fit?

[Reggie B]

Restored gun currently for sale on GI. I see this all the time on reworked guns.

[Stan Hoover]

Originally Posted by Reggie Bishop

Restored gun currently for sale on GI. I see this all the time on reworked guns.

Reggie , thanks for that clear picture

I recently had a gunsmith set a Parker on face and now my rib extension appears similar to this picture.
Question, is there a fix for this condition of the dolls head rib extension or is there anyone currently performing a repair for this??

I asked my smith about building this up and then refitting, he had no direct answer and nothing was done.

Laser welding comes to mind???

[Larry the Gun Guy]

Remington era looks a little different on this 241XXX vent rib gun.
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[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Stan Hoover

Reggie , thanks for that clear picture

I recently had a gunsmith set a Parker on face and now my rib extension appears similar to this picture.
Question, is there a fix for this condition of the dolls head rib extension or is there anyone currently performing a repair for this??

I asked my smith about building this up and then refitting, he had no direct answer and nothing was done.

Laser welding comes to mind???

Yes Stan there is a more expensive way of avoiding the gap and that would have been to remove the doll’s head rib extension and file metal from the front of it so that when it is aoldered back in place there would be no gaps as shown in a few of preceding pictures… but that is very labor intensive and expensive.

Another cheaper way would be to add metal by welding to the areas displaying the gaps and finish filing it to fit correctly.





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[Craig Budgeon]

If the wear is on the hinge pin and it is decided to add material to the barrel lug to correct the problem then by necessity everything including the dolls head has to back to the breech. When fitting the lug you have to remove the same amount of material that the barrels were off face in order for the gun to close.

[Craig Budgeon]

Tig welding the dolls head can be accomplished but it is very time consuming thus it is expensive. Vulcan barrels fitted to early hammerless damascus guns almost always result in a poor fit.

[Reggie B]

I see the world is back in equilibrium!

[B. Dudley]

If barrels are “set back” then that area of the rib extension will open up. It is just a fact of the matter. And most would not want to mess with the super delicate work of welding a rib extension in that area and refitting it and potentially having a real mess on their hands.

In an ideal world when tightening a gun up, one would make up for exactly the worn material. But in reality, it ends up being adding more material than needed and then fitting accordingly. Once the hook is good, the breech of the barrels is fitted, and then the extension ends up with that gap.


One may wonder how the new guns are so precisely fitted. Yhe barrels were first fitted to the frame with no rib extension on them. Then the rib was cut back and the fitting of the extension was a separate operation after the fact. So, no they were not having to fit the hook, breech face and extension at the same time like we have to deal with today when putting back on face.

[Woodcock survey]

Edgar and Dean this has had me in a state of confusion all day. Edgar you finally brought the light to my dull mind. If it were necessary to remove metal from the rear of the doll's head then it follows that the breech face of the barrel's were too far back and metal would have to be removed there or the breech face.
I think the reason for these gaps eludes us.

[Dean Romig]

Thanks Brian.





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