New Powders and Primers on the Horizon

[Double Lab]

Originally Posted by Craig Larter

If you enjoy shooting vintage shotguns in the obsolete gauges, 8ga, 10ga or 16ga, reloading is the only option. Try to find 3/4oz or 7/8oz 1150fps 12ga loads commercially. Try to find a 1 1/8oz bismuth low pressure load for your Parker duck gun. Reloading is easy and gives you a feeling of satisfaction when you dust a clay or drop a bird with your home rolled.

The real savings are in the 28 and .410.

[Stan Hillis]

Originally Posted by Daryl Corona

The real savings are in the 28 and .410.

Indeed, and in addition you can create loads that are not available for sale anywhere. For example, I created a 3" .410 load for doves and quail that holds .73 oz. of nickel plated lead. The closest thing to it on the market is Winchester's 3/4 oz. lead loads. In testing over the last three years I find the nickel plated shot loads kill "deader" than the Winchester plain lead load . . . i.e., less cripples, more dishrag hits.

I roll crimp them in Cheddite 3" hulls, with Cheddite primers. The cost savings over the standard Winchester loads are huge. And, they debunk the theory that long shot column loads don't pattern well. Patterns are excellent.

[Double Lab]

Great description with a "dishrag" hit. Sort of like "inkballing" a clay.

Yes custom loading is a huge benefit. I love the 3/4oz load in the 20ga and in the 12ga. Try and find them at your LGS.

[Bill Murphy]

Stan, what is that tool you have chucked into the drill press? I've been using a regular folded crimp on my 3" .410s, but I'm up to trying a roll crimp.

[Stan Hillis]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

Stan, what is that tool you have chucked into the drill press? I've been using a regular folded crimp on my 3" .410s, but I'm up to trying a roll crimp.

Bill, that is a MEC Super Sizer. The collets interchange for most common gauges. I prefer to use it when resizing hulls that will be reloaded on my single stage presses that don't have a collet resizer. Collet resizing is effortless as compared to ring sizing.


The trick is that I discovered it was the best possible shell holding tool for roll crimping on my drill press. You just hold it tight enough to keep it from spinning. Quick and easy, and keeps you from having to purchase a separate shell holder for the roll crimping process.

[J. A. EARLY]

[QUOTE=Stan Hillis;421617]Indeed, and in addition you can create loads that are not available for sale anywhere. For example, I created a 3" .410 load for doves and quail that holds .73 oz. of nickel plated lead.

Stan,

I think I may have asked before and received the 3/4 oz load from you, but can you share it again? I know that 3/4 oz. was common in .410 before plastic hulls and wads but I have not seen them anymore, only 11/16 oz.

Thanks

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Daryl Corona

The real savings are in the 28 and .410.

....and Short 10 along with any bismuth load.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Craig Larter

If you enjoy shooting vintage shotguns in the obsolete gauges, 8ga, 10ga or 16ga, reloading is the only option. Try to find 3/4oz or 7/8oz 1150fps 12ga loads commercially. Try to find a 1 1/8oz bismuth low pressure load for your Parker duck gun. Reloading is easy and gives you a feeling of satisfaction when you dust a clay or drop a bird with your home rolled.

By no means am I knocking anyone for loading the lighter 16 loads but for years I shot plain old Winchester Dove and Quail 1 ounce promotional loads in a circa 1916 GH 16 gauge Damascus I had . My loading now is pretty much 8 and 10 only .

[Garth Gustafson]

So if RST can't get low pressure powder, how am I able to get it?

[Double Lab]

Originally Posted by Garth Gustafson

So if RST can't get low pressure powder, how am I able to get it?

It's not that difficult Garth. You're not loading thousands of rounds for sale hoping to make a profit. The components are out there and it's quite relaxing.