Bad time to start reloading 10 gauge?

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Ben Safryn

Thanks! Is this a 2 7/8” load? My Lifter has 2 5/8” chambers, if this is a powder puff load in 2 7/8” would it still be a powder puff load in 2 5/8”? And do you know the PSI for your load? I didn’t see any red dot loads in the spreadsheet that use less than 20 or 21 grains of powder.

I am trying to find a 1 1/8oz or 1oz load to use with some of the powder, cheddite hulls and versalite (SP10 equiv?) components I have. I can use beans or punch my own cardboard for filler too.

That’s a powder puff load in a 12 gauge . Yes I only load 2 7/8” .

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Ben Safryn

Thanks Pete! Now….how daring do I want to be trying a Red Dot recipe with IMR Red? Wonder if Blue Dot can be swapped for IMR Blue?

Comparing 1 1/8 ounce 12ga loads with a Federal Gold Medal hull 19 + or - grains of Red Dot and IMR Red produce very similar pressures from what I see in the Hodgdon and Alliant online manuals. Both were around 10,000 psi.

The larger the gauge the lower the pressure. A 19 grain Red Dot loading was tested by member here and the pressure was about 6700 psi. I would expect similar pressure from 19 grain IMR Red.

If your concerned have the load tested. Personally I would shoot a 1 1/8 ounce 19 grain IMR Red loading, my tens have rather stout barrels and I am long since past believing composite barrels could blow up with "normal" loads. Good luck.

[charlie cleveland]

was lots of powder on gunbroker but it was sky high....charlie

[StubTwist]

Sad to hear about 800X. People disliked 800X because it metered terribly and powder flakes were the size of potato chips. Due to this it was always available on the shelf. This is a great pistol powder with good velocity and low standard deviation numbers dispensed with my RCBS Chargemaster. Used it for 20 gauge too .

[Mills]

It seems this is a bad time to be shooting and looking for ammo period. Looking forward to this passing

[ArtS]

That RedDot/1-1/8oz load is pretty much the standard extra light 10 ga load. I use it. One thing that always concerned me is the use of things like red beans, rice etc as filler. I have never seen any numbers where these loads were tested with and without the natural fillers. Looking at the available data, even 1/8 ozof shot can have a not insignificant effect on pressure. If you weigh the amount of red beans/ for instance, it takes to fill the hull, it may have a significant impact. Unlike a light cork cushion wad, the beans actually have a lot of space which the shot occupies, so it takes more than you would guess to really fill the shell. I don't remember the numbers, but I loaded a hull normally and added enough beans mixed with the shot to get the proper length and the combined weight of the beans sdplus shot surprised me. Be nice if someone loading these would have them pressured tested against a shell with a cushion wad filler and a simple shorter shell with the base load.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Arthur Shaffer

That RedDot/1-1/8oz load is pretty much the standard extra light 10 ga load. I use it. One thing that always concerned me is the use of things like red beans, rice etc as filler. I have never seen any numbers where these loads were tested with and without the natural fillers. Looking at the available data, even 1/8 ozof shot can have a not insignificant effect on pressure. If you weigh the amount of red beans/ for instance, it takes to fill the hull, it may have a significant impact. Unlike a light cork cushion wad, the beans actually have a lot of space which the shot occupies, so it takes more than you would guess to really fill the shell. I don't remember the numbers, but I loaded a hull normally and added enough beans mixed with the shot to get the proper length and the combined weight of the beans sdplus shot surprised me. Be nice if someone loading these would have them pressured tested against a shell with a cushion wad filler and a simple shorter shell with the base load.

You may be quite correct in your assumption . But I’ve had no issue in over ten years of loading this stuff with various fillers . What you Need to do I would think is weigh the cards you’d normally use vs whatever other thing you choose for displacement . While I say I’ve had no issue it only takes once , I may blow one up tommorrow with the same load and no longer be of the living but I seriously DOUBT IT

[charlie cleveland]

I too am way past the don't shoot in the Damascus or twist barrel stage....I have more guns with composite barrels than steel ones....charlie

[Keith Doty]

I've been loading Longshot in the short 10 with good success. 30 gr. under an SP-10 wad. Had some tested using a 16 ga. fiber wad as filler and an OSC, 1 1/4 #8, 1225 fps and under 6K pressure.

[Keith Doty]

Dug these out, waiting on some others to be tested. Longshot because I have some! Shooting these in an EH Damascus 30".