Q1 & Q2 choke constrictions

[Dean Romig]

The first shot taken in Skeet is the station 1 outgoer, hence Skeet 1, the incomer would be the second shot taken, hence Skeet 2... am I wrong?





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[Woodcock survey]

My 20 Repo q1/q2 is right 3 thou, left 7 thou. Hunting grouse and woodcock the first shot is usually closer so the front trigger is naturally the one you come to first. I started hunting with double trigger guns 60 years ago and have developed the ability to judge the distance and reach the right trigger with out thinking about it.
On the skeet field outgoing back trigger incoming front trigger. The constriction is perfect with todays plastic shot collar shells. Back when Parker made the skeet guns the ammo needed bit more choke to accomplish the same pattern.
Today with our guns and the current ammo we are ,in my opinion, over choked for most of are shooting. Some very long hits can be done with a modern load in a full choke Parker once you have figured out the lead at those distances

[Wild Skies]

The below brochure introducing the 28ga. Parker Reproduction to the marketplace is not shown on the "The Parker Reproduction Literature" page of the "All Albums" section of this website; but, it ought to be! This one-piece brochure (with dealers listed on the back side) is not dated, but it is thought to be from 1986. If 1986 is indeed correct of when the 28 ga. Repro was first introduced the Q1/Q2 offering appears to answer the question of which choke stampings came first -- Q1/Q2 or Skeet1/Skeet 2.

But, of course, when speaking of Parkers, we never say never.

[Dean Romig]

So, according to the brochure Q1 & Q2 came first in the 28 gauge Reproductions.

And the picture you posted Greg, earlier in this thread, a 28 gauge with Skeet 1 and Skeet 2 stamps is obviously a later production gun, the 28’s having been introduced with Q1 & Q2 stamps.








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[Wild Skies]

In doing an internet search trying to find out which came first, Q1/Q2 or SK 1/SK 2, I came upon this four page letter that Jim Rikhoff of the National Sporting Fraternity Limited sent in 1987 to its membership. This letter announces among other things the availabilty of NSFL 28-ga. and 12-ga. NSFL Repros and that the 20-ga. NSFL Repros had already sold out of their run of 100 guns. Rikhoff mentioned he had been working with the Skeuse's for close to a couple of years prior to the date of the letter. So, one can assume it was probably 1985 when the first 20-ga. NSFL Repros were in member's hands. On pg. 4 of this thread I posted pics of NSFL 20-1 choked SKEET 1/SKEET 2, obviously these 20s w/Skeet chokes came prior to the 28-ga. guns . . . but were they offered before or after the Q1/Q2 choked twenties? The investigation continues...

[Bill Murphy]

I thought I'd seen it all in Repro literature, but I've never seen the Rikhoff letters. Thanks.

[Bill Murphy]

Skeet 1 is a Winchester invention and it is more open than Skeet 2, which is also a Winchester invention. Your last post is correct but shooters will use what barrel they choose. There is no confusion about the pictured Repro with Skeet 1 and Skeet 2. Skeet 1, open choke, Skeet 2, more choke.

[Dean Romig]

So Winchester threw the “wrench” into the works.





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