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Old 12-11-2021, 06:14 PM   #1
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when I was just a boy growing up in the south a 12 ga double with 26 inch barrels was the quail hunters gun to own...and usally it was a lc smith field grade...charlie
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When I was just a boy growing up in the northeast, a 16 ga Parker was the gun to hunt grouse with.. And pheasant too.
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When i was a boy growing up in Georgia Browning A5s were the bird guns in 16 and 12 gauge with no plugs. Bobby
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When I became a 'man', the 16 ga still ruled
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Okay, I just measured the chokes in Kathy’s Repro 28 ga. with Q1 and Q2 stamps.
You’re right Greg about the tighter choke being in the left barrel of a Repro but these are more open than my 28 ga. VHE Skeet gun.
Repro chokes are Rt.- .004” and Left- .009” while the VHE is Rt.- .015” and Left is .008”







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Okay, I just measured the chokes in Kathy’s Repro 28 ga. with Q1 and Q2 stamps.
You’re right Greg about the tighter choke being in the left barrel of a Repro but these are more open than my 28 ga. VHE Skeet gun.
Repro chokes are Rt.- .004” and Left- .009” while the VHE is Rt.- .015” and Left is .008”.
Isn't that what I said? Besides the left/right reversal, original Parker Skeet Out/Skeet In chokes are tighter that Repro Q1/Q2 chokes. My 28ga. Q1/Q2 Repro has .004/.007 constrictions, same constrictions as in my 20ga. Q1/Q2 Repro.
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Re-reading your reply Dean, I do see where your 28ga. left barrel is a hair more open than Kathy's left barrel, but your orig. 28ga. is a hair tighter than my 28 and 20ga. Repros. Mea culpa.

Is your orig. Parker stamped Skeet Out/Skeet in?
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No it’s not. It’s a 1935 gun but apparently just a couple of weeks or months before Remington began to stamp the flats with the Skeet stamps.





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And I just re-learned another small point about the Q1 and Q2 chokes and stamps…
“New barrel choke designations - Quail 1 & Quail 2 - were added as an option on all gauges. Apparently these chokes were introduced to appeal to quail hunters. These choke designations were dropped and Skeet 1 - & Skeet 2 chokes were offered in a revised brochure, circa 1988.”
…So, the Q1 & Q2 were dropped in the revised brochure but was the stamp on the barrel flats revised as well? Are there any Parker Reproductions out there with stamps of Skeet 1 & Skeet 2 ???





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Yes, Dean I have seen a very few with Skeet 1/Skeet 2
stamps.

I read the same explanation of the switch from Q1/Q2 to SK1/SK2 that you have, but came to what may be an erroneous conclusion in that it was really the other way around -- that being the Skeet designations came first. I guess it was because we see so many more with the Q1/Q2 designations.

Not the best pic, but here's a 28ga. 26" set of barrels factory choked Skeet 1/Skeet 2. This was part of a 2-bbl. set, the other set is 26" IC/M.
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