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Unread 11-22-2021, 05:23 AM   #1
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Thanks, on 10G I use the arbor press too & imperial die wax.

On trimming to length, 16 & 10 have a couple jigs to trim 4 at a time on the bandsaw no reason same thing would not work 8G.

It’s just a wood block with holes, split with a wing nut to tighten. 4 set up run it through the saw using the rip fence. Thing about the twist and cut trimmers my wrist won’t last long twisting. After sawing the case mouth needs conditioning, do it in the drill press with another shop made tool also convertible to 8 G . Will see if I can find a photo to post

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Thanks, on 10G I use the arbor press too & imperial die wax.

On trimming to length, 16 & 10 have a couple jigs to trim 4 at a time on the bandsaw no reason same thing would not work 8G.

It’s just a wood block with holes, split with a wing nut to tighten. 4 set up run it through the saw using the rip fence. Thing about the twist and cut trimmers my wrist won’t last long twisting. After sawing the case mouth needs conditioning, do it in the drill press with another shop made tool also convertible to 8 G . Will see if I can find a photo to post

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Ive seen old Lyman dies for 12 and smaller gauges that look just like this 8 ga die, I guess back in the day this was the style used.
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Here you go, from idea on the bottom to ones that work best top. Wood insert builds friction and heat faster. Any gauge, have made from 410 to 10, no reason 8 won’t work.

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Here you go, from idea on the bottom to ones that work best top. Wood insert builds friction and heat faster. Any gauge, have made from 410 to 10, no reason 8 won’t work.

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I was wondering what people were using for conditioning 8 gauge hulls Ive seen homemade skimmers as well made from broadheads. Not sure how short you can go with 8ga loads but I want to say I remember someone making 2 3/4" loads once the case mouth became worn. I only have bluedot on hand so I will have to flip through the manual to see if theres a 1 1/2oz load in there I seen one but it was using clays .
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Guys,
Reading through a bunch of the different threads all you guys are discussing and figured you all might be the best resource to answer some of my questions or give me some advice.
I recently came into possession of a large cache (thousands) of Win 8 ga. Industrial loads (mostly #2, some 00, not sure what's the best thing to do with them. I'd like to salvage the lead, primers and powder out of them for my other reloading endeavors (casting for old Winchester 92's and shot pellet dripping, reloading 12 and 20 ga.) but I also don't want to waste the hulls for someone else that could make use of them. There's also the over-shot cards, fiber wads, sleeve hulls and the cup wads that are likely usable to someone.
I've set up a jig on a small craft saw to cut the roll crimp off the end of the hull trying to minimize the amount of loss but not sure if this the best approach. Any suggestions?

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Guys,
Reading through a bunch of the different threads all you guys are discussing and figured you all might be the best resource to answer some of my questions or give me some advice.
I recently came into possession of a large cache (thousands) of Win 8 ga. Industrial loads (mostly #2, some 00, not sure what's the best thing to do with them. I'd like to salvage the lead, primers and powder out of them for my other reloading endeavors (casting for old Winchester 92's and shot pellet dripping, reloading 12 and 20 ga.) but I also don't want to waste the hulls for someone else that could make use of them. There's also the over-shot cards, fiber wads, sleeve hulls and the cup wads that are likely usable to someone.
I've set up a jig on a small craft saw to cut the roll crimp off the end of the hull trying to minimize the amount of loss but not sure if this the best approach. Any suggestions?

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What you aspire to do isn’t as simple as you might think . Well atleast to do it and not trash the hulls etc . Kinda time consuming actually . I go along with saving the hulls , primers and perhaps the shot (however some of or all of the shot may possibly be zinc based) . But as to the powder I’d pour it on the grass , you can’t be sure exactly what it is so how can you reuse it in handloads . Better to be safe and alive versus overly thrifty and maimed or worse .
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Guys,
Reading through a bunch of the different threads all you guys are discussing and figured you all might be the best resource to answer some of my questions or give me some advice.
I recently came into possession of a large cache (thousands) of Win 8 ga. Industrial loads (mostly #2, some 00, not sure what's the best thing to do with them. I'd like to salvage the lead, primers and powder out of them for my other reloading endeavors (casting for old Winchester 92's and shot pellet dripping, reloading 12 and 20 ga.) but I also don't want to waste the hulls for someone else that could make use of them. There's also the over-shot cards, fiber wads, sleeve hulls and the cup wads that are likely usable to someone.
I've set up a jig on a small craft saw to cut the roll crimp off the end of the hull trying to minimize the amount of loss but not sure if this the best approach. Any suggestions?

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Joe,
you may want to hold onto them before taking them apart, I watched a box of 25 Winchester 8 gauge Industrial ammo sell this past Saturday for $650.

I have most of a case of Winchester Industrial ammo myself, my thought was to tear it down for the hulls, primer and buckshot that it is loaded with, but I'm rethinking that.

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you may want to hold onto them before taking them apart, I watched a box of 25 Winchester 8 gauge Industrial ammo sell this past Saturday for $650.

I have most of a case of Winchester Industrial ammo myself, my thought was to tear it down for the hulls, primer and buckshot that it is loaded with, but I'm rethinking that.

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Ive seen a original box of Remington Arrow 8 ga shells go for that price at auction. Id never pay that for industrial loads though the money just isnt there and they arent really that collectible.



When I pull apart industrial loads I just use a flat head screwdriver to unroll the crimp and salvage the hulls since it doesnt damage them. If you cut the crimp off you're probably going to end up with a 2 3/4" 8 gauge hull.
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i save odd powders and use them to burn stumps.
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I'd consider selling a large portion of them I guess, don't have an 8 ga. yet myself. I just didn't want to render the hulls unusable to other guys by cutting the roll crimp off during my salvaging operations. I'm cutting into the hull right at the roll so it's literally just the roll that pops off the end.

Where would a guy offload shells like that anyways? I really have no idea about the whole 8 ga. scene, didn't know they existed unitl about a month ago
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