Chamber Pressure - Page 3

10ga Hammer · 02-09-2011, 07:44 PM

John C, I have done exactly that, loaded the new preprimed hull,then after first firing reloaded with Win 209's. Like Dave said performance between Win and Cheddite primers is very close.

John Clement · 02-05-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Collins

Dave,

When I cleaned out Papa's house I found about 300 or so once fired empties he had been hoarding. You can still get WW Xpert 1 oz 2 1/2 dram loads at 1165 fps. A great load and expensive, but is a way to get empties.

Harry

Ok, this brings up another question that I have. I am just starting to collect hulls for the 16 right now. I have a couple hundred old AA's that I will load several more times, but I need to build a supply of something more modern. I was starting to work on Remington game loads simply because I can get them locally, but I can just as easily get WW Xpert.

Here is the question though; if I buy factory loads on the WW Xperts, I only have one 16 gauge to empty them through. Can I shoot those the first time through the Parker? What kind of pressure am I looking at there?

Thanks again.

Autumn Daze · 02-05-2011, 10:31 PM

John, I don't know about factory pressures on the AA's maybe Harry can answer that for you. I reload the black Remingtons and at best I get 4/5 reloads before they are junk. I think the AA's will last a bit longer.

John Clement · 02-05-2011, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Suponski

John, I don't know about factory pressures on the AA's maybe Harry can answer that for you. I reload the black Remingtons and at best I get 4/5 reloads before they are junk. I think the AA's will last a bit longer.

The AA's I have are the old ones. They were great hulls, but I understand they no longer exist. I will find some loads and keep using those until they wear out, but I don't have very many of them. It seems that the Cheddites now have the reputation of lasting the longest, so I might as well just stock up on those.

I can't tell you all how much I appreciate the help. I am catching up on a lot of new information after about 15 years of little shooting and no reloading.

John Clement · 02-05-2011, 10:38 PM

And one more while I'm at it: I may go ahead and order some Cheddite hulls. They come primed with ch209 primers. I don't know how different they are from the Winchester 209, but does anyone have a 7/8 or 1 Oz recipe for that combo? I currently have the Claybusters WAA 16 wad, and the SP 16 wad, but will also be getting some DR 16's. I am making a trip to "the big city" in the next few days and plan to stock up on all the things I can't get here.

This info would help until I hear back from the low pressure group and get their data tables.

Harry Collins · 02-06-2011, 08:03 AM

John,

I would not worry about pressure in a VH. I do worry about recoil and how it might impact the old wood. In the Winchester reloading book they list this as a duplicate of factory 2 1/2 dram eq. promotional field load: WW 209 primer, 20.0 grains WSF, WAA16 wad, 1 oz shot, 1165 fps, 8400 psi.

Harry

charlie cleveland · 02-06-2011, 02:59 PM

harry that was good advise for the gun and a real decent load to boot...thanks charlie

John Clement · 02-09-2011, 08:32 PM

I have 2 3/4 hulls. I have 1000 DR16's on the way that are stuck in a snowstorm in the Midwest. The hulls arrived today. We are on our way to a city that has a Sportsmans warehouse, so I will be picking up a keg of International this weekend, and by next week I will be ready to load a few.

The data I see usually says Cheddite blue or green. These are red, but I assume they are the same. Precision said "Color may vary."

Dave Miles · 02-10-2011, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by John Clement

I have 2 3/4 hulls. I have 1000 DR16's on the way that are stuck in a snowstorm in the Midwest. The hulls arrived today. We are on our way to a city that has a Sportsmans warehouse, so I will be picking up a keg of International this weekend, and by next week I will be ready to load a few.

The data I see usually says Cheddite blue or green. These are red, but I assume they are the same. Precision said "Color may vary."

John,
Did you measure your new RED Cheddite hulls?
The red hulls I've seen are 2-1/2". Not saying yours aren't 2-3/4".

John Clement · 02-10-2011, 10:09 AM

Don't scare me like that Dave! I was in a big hurry when I ordered them, and see myself punching the wrong item on the iPad. Nope, they are 2 3/4. Nice looking hulls too. Coming back to this after so many years, I was surprised by the low quality of a lot of hulls. I used to just use the AA's and some Remington-Peters. These look like good hulls.