INVINCIBLES - Page 5

VH20 · 09-02-2009, 12:38 AM

Regarding Bruce's post #31 about stolen guns being reclaimed by past owners from current ones, there was a story I read many years ago written by a man who had just such a thing happen. The memory is fuzzy, but I believe he bought an A grade gun at a very low price. He had a nagging feeling it was suspect, but bought it anyway. He didn't go to any great lengths to keep his gun private. Eventually, FBI agents showed up at his door one day asking to see the gun. They had concrete proof that the gun was indeed stolen. I think it had belonged to a Colonel? who was in the process of moving. The entire moving van got stolen along with all of his possessions packed within, including the AH(E?). The current owner had to surrender it without compensation. I don't recall if he took action against the seller. Does anyone remember this, and if I remembered details wrong please correct them.

Jim

George Blair · 09-02-2009, 09:47 AM

Jim, have a look at DGJ Vol. 13 Issue 4. It belonged to a general, and it was a A-1 Special. George

Robert Delk · 09-02-2009, 12:50 AM

The gun was an A1 Special and it belonged to a general grade officer who had it stolen. Gun was advertised as a C grade and the guy got it for 1000 or 1200. When he wrote Remington trying to get some history they alerted the FBI.Seems the general was pretty savvy and told Remington to be on the look out if someone inquired about the gun.

VH20 · 09-02-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Delk

The gun was an A1 Special and it belonged to a general grade officer who had it stolen. Gun was advertised as a C grade and the guy got it for 1000 or 1200. When he wrote Remington trying to get some history they alerted the FBI.Seems the general was pretty savvy and told Remington to be on the look out if someone inquired about the gun.

Thanks Robert. That sounds right to me. I thought it was 1200.00 but wasn't sure. I definitely remember the part about Remington alerting the FBI now that you mention it. Do you remember where this was published? I can't remember where I read it, but it seems like it was in one of the hunting/shooting mags, or possibly DGJ or similar.

Jim

Austin W Hogan · 09-14-2009, 10:21 PM

Tommy Hypes (Tommy's Books) Radford VA, 540 639 6807 did have remaindered copies of Baer's books.

Best Austin

Bruce Day · 09-02-2009, 08:22 AM

At least one of these people who post here asking how much a gun is worth stole the gun and was seeking to sell it in a hurry. One of our Georgia members found that out and had to return the Parker. At least he was able to get his money back but the law does not require that. I'm suspicious of these people who have a nice Parker and say they know nothing about it and want to know how much it is worth. I know we have members privately emailing them and seeking to buy these guns and make a deal in the parking lot. Caveat emptor.

Bill Murphy · 09-02-2009, 08:30 AM

Concerning the situation of the ATF requiring the seller compensate the buyer, a poster here had the opposite experience. The ATF requested cooperation from the seller, suggesting that voiding the sale would help in their decision to prosecute or not for selling a stolen gun. Our member was refunded the purchase price quickly. Maybe he will post and give us more details. The gun was not a Parker.

Donnie Reels · 09-02-2009, 09:44 AM

Hey guys I was reading your post on Invincibles. I got my book out last night Best Guns by old MM and in the parker chapter he wrote about a Invincible that went missing for some time but was found and was in the hands at that time of a New Your business man. I don't know as much as you guys do about them but I'm trying to learn I hope this helps.

George Lander · 09-05-2009, 02:05 PM

Francis: Thank You. The Volume I of Larry Baer's book that I am looking for has a black alligator texture hardback cover with the Parker Gun logo in an oval @ 7" wide & 3 1/2" high with a silver tone. I have a copy in a brown smooth cover with the logo in gold. It is a second printing, 1977. I believe that the one I am looking for would be the first printing of 1974. Volume II has a copyright date of 1976. I would be willing to pay up to $50.00 for the right one.

Old and Reliable · 09-05-2009, 02:16 PM

You are most welcome George. Please check your PM on this site, I sent you the address of an area (NW Kent Co. MI) fly fishing shop that deals heavily in o.p. sporting books, and then owner, Glenn Blackwood- aka "Captain Carp", also will do a search for you. I sold my spare copy of the 1977 second edition (Larry Beinfield Pub. Co.) to Mark for an even $30- and it was mint. So I would say your $50 "ball park" sounds about as right as the mail. If I find one in that range and in VG plus to Mint, I will see that you get it posthaste.

Years ago I made the mistake of "loaning" my copy of the Peter Johnson Parker book to a former hunting pal. I found a replacement with DJ in VG plus condition at Mr. Black's shop, believe I paid $12.00 for it. Of course, some of the information the late Mr. Johnson had available in 1959 has been surpassed by what we know today, and in part due to the members of the PGCA who have devoted some much time and research to our beloved "Old Reliables"!!