INVINCIBLES

[Bruce Day]

It wasn't lost, Larry Baer just didn't know where it was. Many collectors are private and don't want the world to know what they have, so they keep quiet and their holdings are known only to a few close friends. All the more so when there is some tale, true or not, of the gun being stolen at some time. The last thing a person who owns an expensive gun(and may have paid a lot for it) wants is for the heirs of the owner who reported it stolen to come calling with a claim on the gun. That is presently happening with stolen art work from WWII.

Its like the President Harrison AH grade. While it was lost to the public, his great grandson was shooting quail with it just a few miles from here.

But Scott is correct. Somebody may miraculously come up with an Invincible whose SN is in the missing records. Probably be a small bore and in extremely high condition, the long lost and fabled fourth Invincible finally found.

[Bill Murphy]

My gosh, for the fourth time this year, I agree with Bruce Day. Yup, the #200,000 was never really missing as suggested in Johnson, the earlier "missing" thing about this gun is still a mystery, although a minor one. Of all people, George Lander shouldn't refer to the Bo Whoop thing as a "controversy" since he is the person who claims to know where it is and who owns it. If there is a controversy, he started it. Who is he referring to when he says "someone here"?? He is the someone here, or there. OK, George, are you bringing Bo Whoop to the Vintagers this year? I missed it the last time you brought it.

[Old and Reliable]

Right spot on the money, Sir!! Advertising valuables of any nature in today's world and the nature of many "opportunists" is a most precarious move. If I were to sell valuable firearms I would consider the % charged by, say James D. Julia or others of that stature to be a "smart insurance policy". I hadn't thought of the stolen gun situation, but that too could be a "horror story" of major league ranking indeed!

[Hammer Gun]

These guns are found in some strange places, The Pratt A1 was found in an upstairs closet by his daughter after his death. complete with case and extra set of barells. Since his daughter did not know anything about guns she asked the family attorney what if anything it was worth, wrong! He did some checking with some people (can not say who) and promptly, and I am sure grudgingly gave her a check for 15,000 I still have a copy of that check. This was in the seventies. So there are guns out, just waiting to be found. Just thought I would share this tidbit Gary

[Gill Frye]

Yeah, a couple of years ago I was talking to a customer and shotguns came up, turned out he had a nice VH 28 ga., three years later and it was mine. One thing for sure is it never hurts to be nice to people.

[George Lander]

Bill: I never claimed to know where Bo Whoop is or who presently has possession. I do claim to have seen it an handled it. I do have a copy of Mr. Callahan's letter concerning it and BTW I didn't bring Bo Whoop up. Don Kass did.

Just To Set The Record Straight........George

[DoubleOframe]

Another picture of the lot (from the serialization book via google book search). Why dont I ever find guns like these in closets??

[Blind Dog]

I'm surprised this hasn't shown up on this thread yet. 5 or 6 years ago I was visiting the DelGrego shop in Ilion for the first time and Larry was putting this neophite in awe by showing me a number of engraving tracings and original Parker parts and pieces. Among the parts and pieces was a frame forging which may or may not have been intended for Invincible IV. The forging had no "counter-sink" for the hinge pin and some other unusual features not found on a standard Parker frame forging. I know there are others here (Bill M. and Kevin M. ?) who have seen or are aware of this item and would know more about it than I would. How about it.

[Dean Romig]

Fred, do you remember if it had the "clips" on the outsides of the breech balls?

[Blind Dog]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Fred, do you remember if it had the "clips" on the outsides of the breech balls?

Dean, I think it did, but I am not certain.