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Don Kaas · 08-28-2009, 10:21 AM

Dean- your reliance on a off hand comment by dear late Oscar to justify the integrity of your own gun so often repeated by you on this and other internet sites does not comport with international proof standards nor the prudent opinions of most if not all professional gunsmiths. Will they blow Up? No, "probably" not. One stuck wad and the concept of prudent safety on these marginal (in the case of Kurt's gun) or beyond marginal (in the case of yours) bored out composite barrels has vanished. I merely caution prudence and inclusion of a margin of safety in evaluating the purchase and use of these old guns. This is something I think we should all encourage.

As to Kurt's guns, once I had measured the barrels and (for me personally) found them wanting, I immediately mentally moved to Plan B...have a set of Galazan's new 30" 20g barrels fitted to it. Adding up the cost of this including a re-cutting the engraving and re-casing, along with (for me) a mandatory re-stock quickly moved me to Plan C...send it back...I'm invoking Plan C more often than I used to, I hear there's a recession going on...in this case have 3 16g hammer Parkers made it easier but a G would have been nice...Good Luck with it Kurt!

Harry Collins · 08-28-2009, 10:58 AM

Kurt,

I have 48223. It started life as a 16 gauge, but it was monoblocked to 20 gauge before I purchased it. I have more fun shooting it than the law allows. Hope you have a ton of fun with yours as well.

Harry

Dollar Grade · 08-28-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Harry Collins

Kurt,

I have 48223. It started life as a 16 gauge, but it was monoblocked to 20 gauge before I purchased it. I have more fun shooting it than the law allows. Hope you have a ton of fun with yours as well.

Harry

Nice Harry, Did they leave the 20ga bbls at 30" ?? That would be a lot of fun to shoot. I have shot a few rounds of sporting clays with it and enjoy it very much. I even got my wife to shoot a couple boxes in the yard and then go to the club for a round of sporting clays. She did really well with it. A set of 20 ga bbls added to it would be nice.

Kurt

Dean Romig · 08-28-2009, 11:21 AM

Don, I bow to your better knowledge and experience and your advice of a more prudent margin of safety on marginal or questionable barrels which may fall outside of accepted standards of proof.
I will accept your worthy legal advice to me on this matter and will no longer quote Oscar's letter (on his business letterhead) to me which I didn't take as an "offhand comment". But, again, you're right that I should use better judgement when giving my own offhand comments.

Dean

MarketHunter · 08-28-2009, 04:27 PM

I shudder to think how many doves that gun has killed.

DLH

Dollar Grade · 08-28-2009, 07:08 PM

Harry, Nice stick of wood on that old girl...

Destry, I loaded up a few #2 bismuth for the 16 hammer gun. Couldn't get an ounce in the wad but was able to get 7/8 oz in there. I didn't count the number of pellets but it should be sufficient for birds over decoys. I may have to force Rich to used it seeing as he schooled me with his 28ga last weekend. I still owe him a cigar over that ordeal...

MarketHunter · 08-28-2009, 07:17 PM

When I read that sort of crazy talk all I can do is shake my head......

Destry

Bill Murphy · 08-31-2009, 10:09 AM

I haven't measured the forcing cone area of my 30" 0 frame 16 hammer gun, but the stock book lists it at 7 pounds 3 ounces. I can't remember the marked barrel weight but I doubt that I'll ever blow her up. Marked barrel weight of two other 0 frame 16 hammer guns is 3-10 and 3-4. That 28" Laminated set at 3-10 is a real horse.