Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums General Parker Discussions

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Parker Pages Fluid Steel Barrel Articles From the Past
Unread 03-29-2021, 12:43 PM   #1
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,073
Thanks: 36,785
Thanked 34,221 Times in 12,647 Posts

Default Parker Pages Fluid Steel Barrel Articles From the Past

The question always seems to come up "Weren't the Fluid Steel barrels Parker used, regardless of different names on the ribs, all the same steel?"

The answer, after much metalurgical study over the years, is a definitive "No."

Here is a quick list of pertinent articles that address this question and were published in Parker Pages. This is from a cursory glance through the "Parker Pages Digital Archive" using the key search word "steel" but this list may not be complete:

1996 Volume 2 by Oscar Gaddy

1996 Volume 5 by Paul Burns

2002 Volume 6 by Ron Kirby

2003 Volumes 1 & 2 by Dave Suponski

2013 Volume 2 by Charlie Price titled "HT/A"

2013 Volume 3 by Charlie Price titled "Steel used For Parker Barrels"

2014 Volume 2 by Dave Suponski

Some articles are more scientific in study than are others but they all have valid, and in some cases undisputable, points.


I will add that there are other indisputable facts presented on this subject on the PGCA Forum by such authors as Edgar Spencer who has a lifetime of experience with metals and their alloys and chemical makeup.





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03-29-2021, 08:50 PM   #2
Member
Mike Franzen
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Mike Franzen's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,935
Thanks: 1,324
Thanked 4,561 Times in 1,372 Posts

Default

How can one get the digital archives?
Mike Franzen is offline   Reply With Quote
Visit Mike Franzen's homepage!
Unread 03-29-2021, 09:17 PM   #3
Member
stumpstalker
PGCA Member
 
Russell E. Cleary's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 960
Thanks: 11,289
Thanked 2,452 Times in 699 Posts

Default

A check for $55 (which includes shipping) to:

Mike McKinney, 18 Nottingham Road, Maggie Valley, NC 28751
Be sure to say if you want the CD or the thumb drive.
__________________
"First off I scoured the Internet and this seems to be the place to be!” — Chad Whittenburg, 5-12-19
Russell E. Cleary is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Russell E. Cleary For Your Post:
Unread 03-29-2021, 09:47 PM   #4
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,073
Thanks: 36,785
Thanked 34,221 Times in 12,647 Posts

Default

The Parker Pages Digital Archive is available for sale to PGCA Annual and Life Members only.

Just like the Parker Pages magazine, the Digital Archive and everything in it, articles, stories, advertisements and all graphics are all protected under copyright. Selling it only to members allows the PGCA to protect this.





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Dean Romig For Your Post:
Unread 03-30-2021, 12:45 PM   #5
Member
Drew Hause
Forum Associate
 
Drew Hause's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,177
Thanks: 341
Thanked 3,998 Times in 1,309 Posts

Default

Marketing hyperbole, mythology, and opinions are of interest, but one cannot argue with numbers; which we have thanks to Dave Suponski and Ron Graham

Scroll down about 3/4 here for the actual composition analysis
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...EK8OtPYVA/edit

Titanic, post-WWI Vulcan, and Trojan were essentially the same; AISI 1030 and 1035 Medium Carbon steels.
Titanic had low levels of both nickel and chromium compared to the others.
Parker Steel was non-standard Acid Bessemer Resulphurized Rephosphorized AISI 1109 low carbon Steel.

Of course composition could vary somewhat based on years of production ie. pre-WWI and post-WWI

As to the sources of "rough forged tubes", this should be of interest
https://docs.google.com/document/pub...eFell8GsAWd-KI

If someone would like to send me a chunk of their Acme or Whitworth barrels I'd be happy to run the specimen over to METL for testing
Drew Hause is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Drew Hause For Your Post:
Visit Drew Hause's homepage!
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:54 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.