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Unread 03-14-2021, 02:45 PM   #1
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Just as a question.... In Illinois we are allowed to use any shotgun from 20 ga up to 10 ga. What states are you hunting that allow 8 ga. guns ? And, do your regulations specifically say 8 ga. is legal ?

Oh, yea, #4 shot is the biggest shot allowed in IL

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Just as a question.... In Illinois we are allowed to use any shotgun from 20 ga up to 10 ga. What states are you hunting that allow 8 ga. guns ? And, do your regulations specifically say 8 ga. is legal ?

Oh, yea, #4 shot is the biggest shot allowed in IL

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Bruce, as your "neighbor," Missouri also prohibits using anything larger than a 10 gauge. It seems an antiquated prohibition with all of the changes to shotguns that have occurred. So, we can shoot a 2+ ounce loads through a 12 gauge, but not a smaller load through a 100 year old 8 gauge. Go figure.
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Bruce, as your "neighbor," Missouri also prohibits using anything larger than a 10 gauge. It seems an antiquated prohibition with all of the changes to shotguns that have occurred. So, we can shoot a 2+ ounce loads through a 12 gauge, but not a smaller load through a 100 year old 8 gauge. Go figure.
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My question exactly. However, and dont shoot (the pun is intended) the messenger but.... I can see the wardens going nuts having to figure out the length and weight of a given 8 ga legal load just like when we changed to Non Tox for waterfowl. They would need a scale etc. and so many wardens now days dont come from hunting/shooting backgrounds that they dont even know about older shotguns and loads.

I suspect the various agency's would have to run workshops for their wardens/CPO's, and as you having been in the education business like I was for 37 years, I think that could be a cluster.

Let me state, I am all for it.
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My question exactly. However, and dont shoot (the pun is intended) the messenger but.... I can see the wardens going nuts having to figure out the length and weight of a given 8 ga legal load just like when we changed to Non Tox for waterfowl. They would need a scale etc. and so many wardens now days dont come from hunting/shooting backgrounds that they dont even know about older shotguns and loads.

I suspect the various agency's would have to run workshops for their wardens/CPO's, and as you having been in the education business like I was for 37 years, I think that could be a cluster.

Let me state, I am all for it.
Bruce,

You are spot on that the devil is in the details, but we seem to have managed the non-toxic shot matter for waterfowl, even when guys are reloading shells from lead shot with something that meets the law.

I know that the move to ban lead in all hunting is percolating in the US. I've often thought that if we move that way we might consider "grandfathering" old guns (hmmm, maybe old shooters, too) so that their owners could use lead. We would reduce lead in the environment and keep those old guns alive. Yes, we can use non-toxic for all guns, but with the cost of those shells (even as reloads), you will very likely lose a number of hunters at a time when that's exactly what conservation does not need.

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Andy I would use the trojan and stuff it with 2 3/4" 1 1/8 oz #6's, if the GH has steel barrels that will work also. Another load that works well is the 16 ga short magnum with 1 1/4 ounces of #6.
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When Mr. Watson, owner of the Watson Egg Farm on property adjoining Davies’ Blue Rock Kennels, asked Davies and Foster in the late teens - early twenties, to change their “Shooting Round the Clock” layout because the shot was landing in his chicken yard, I wonder if it was for safety reasons or because his chickens were dying from lead ingestion....?





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Shoot the SC and kill a longbeard monarch. Take some good pictures and write the story and submit it to Parker Pages. They might accept it... and then again, they might not. But rest assured, they’ll only accept it if you’re shooting a Parker.





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I'm thinking I might use my SC Davis / Gitman gun for turkeys this spring. I'll just have to be careful not to shoot too high given the trap diminsions of the stock.
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I heard the editors are fussy and real hard asses about the articles!!

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We’ll see about that after the Summer Issue hits my mailbox...





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