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Unread 05-22-2021, 05:01 PM   #1
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Cory, two weeks ago I had our son out and he scored on his first turkey. There was a slammer Tom with a paintbrush rope that came in behind the 5 that were right in front of us. He didn't make a sound either and we heard little to no gobbling that morning either.
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Don’t feel too bad Jerry, I’ve done that tree thing twice with careful aim - once with a big whitetail buck and once with a mature Tom.





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Unless you’re shooting #9 TSS loads at 80 yards.





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Unless you’re shooting #9 TSS loads at 80 yards.

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I've heard about those loads but I'm not buying it. And I have no intention of finding out for myself. Nobody needs to take a shot at 80 yards. And why stop at 80? How about a 100 yard turkey load. Not for me or other astute turkey hunters I know who have the expertise to get the birds in close. And thats the crux of the issue. Some try to make up for their lack of skill with new whiz bang loads or guns. Better that they spend the time to gain the expertise, in my opinion. There really are no short cuts if one wants to become proficient.
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I've heard about those loads but I'm not buying it. And I have no intention of finding out for myself. Nobody needs to take a shot at 80 yards. And why stop at 80? How about a 100 yard turkey load. Not for me or other astute turkey hunters I know who have the expertise to get the birds in close. And thats the crux of the issue. Some try to make up for their lack of skill with new whiz bang loads or guns. Better that they spend the time to gain the expertise, in my opinion. There really are no short cuts if one wants to become proficient.
Tom -

To each his own. I’m not a proponent of such things either but you do it your way (which is admirable) and others will do it theirs.


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Tom - back off!

To each his own. I’m not a proponent of such things either but you do it your way (which is admirable) and others will do it theirs. Sheeesh...

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My comment wasn't aimed at you Dean. But I am passionate about some things and taking shots beyond reasonable range is one of them. Those are living creatures we are hunting and they deserve a quick death. Some people don't give a damn as long at they get a hit and those are the one's I have a problem with.

Years ago I hunted ducks in Tivoli, NY in an estuary of the Hudson River. Sky busting was common there. Right or wrong, I always screamed at them and if they didn't stop I'd walk right up to their blinds and give them a verbal thrashing. It never came to blows but I was ready if it did. Foolish? Yes, but I was passionate about wounded birds and still am. My retriever used to find a lot of still alive birds in Tivoli. I always killed them and included in my bag which used to anger me also.

I really don't care how people hunt as long as they have consideration for the game. The trend towards super guns and super loads and long shots gets to me. It encourages those with less experience to try to stretch things, sometimes wounding game. It's all wrong in my opinion.
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I must agree with Mr. Flanigan in 60 years of hunting and shooting i have seen the same thing over and over with technology substituting for the slow and hard way. Modern bowhunting is probably the best example, there are still the longbow and recurve bow hunters and they probably hunt birds with those obsolete, antique side by sides.
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I must agree with Mr. Flanigan in 60 years of hunting and shooting i have seen the same thing over and over with technology substituting for the slow and hard way. Modern bowhunting is probably the best example, there are still the longbow and recurve bow hunters and they probably hunt birds with those obsolete, antique side by sides.
Dan, I agree with you about modern bowhunting. When I was working, I stopped bowhunting about 30 years ago because it interferred with my bird shooting. I got back into it this year since I am now retired. I didn't use my Bear recurve bow. I went to a compound bow because I am 71 years old and I can shoot a compound better than I can a recurve. For me its all about not wounding game. I limit my shots to thrity yards where I am absolutely consistent. Also my upper muscles are not what they used to be and I can hold for a much longer time making my shots more consistent than with a recurve.

But taking a deer with a compound is not the same as taking them with recurve. We had to do an awful lot of time practicing back in the day. Taking a deer wth a recurve is real bowhinting while taking a deer with a compound is semi-bowhunting, in my opinion.
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Dan, I agree with Tom too - I just disagreed with his delivery. But who am I ? Everyone is entitled to his opinion and his own way of expressing it.

My apologies to Tom and to anyone who I offended in responding the way I did.





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Dan, I agree with Tom too - I just disagreed with his delivery. But who am I ? Everyone is entitled to his opinion and his own way of expressing it.

My apologies to Tom and to anyone who I offended in responding the way I did.

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No need for an apology. I did come across pretty hard. I rarely get hot and most of my friends have never seen me get mad. But there are two things that I am passsionate about, wounding game through not caring and abusing dogs. I respond to both pretty aggressively if I see it.

My comments were not aimed at you Dean, but in general.
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