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[Dean Romig]

Right Scott and I hardly ever see a red fox anymore... coyotes eat them too. The foxes that survive are the gray foxes that are able to climb trees.





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[Tom Flanigan]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Right Scott and I hardly ever see a red fox anymore... coyotes eat them too. The foxes that survive are the gray foxes that are able to climb trees.





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For me Dean, thats an absolutely horrible picture. It's hard to look at. I hate that coyotes take dogs.

[Phil C]

I have always said if there was ever a nuclear Holocaust there would only be two creatures that would survive. Cockroaches and Coyotes, and within 2 years there would only be the Coyotes as they will have eaten all of the roaches.
When Parker Bros. Started making their first shotguns there were no Coyotes in the Eastern states.
The coyote has evolved and has expanded his range and now thrives in 49 of the 50 states. He is not the coyote he was 100 years ago. DNA supports this fact.
4 to 500,000 Coyotes are killed each year which should give us an idea of just how many there really are.
Coyotes are very adaptable. They literally will eat anything. Don’t fool yourself that they don’t have an impact on your deer, Turkey and upland bird population. The millions of Coyotes in United States are not just eating road kill and the weak.
Just my 2 cents, but Coyotes have evolved and expanded their range to a point that they have no less impact than the flying carp, snakes, and iguanas that have invaded different parts of our country.
Currently the coyote has very few natural predators.They have learned to adapt and survive even it large city’s.
Unfortunately any thought that nature has a way of balancing things out may not apply to the coyote in a way you would hope for. I have not heard of large scale mass die off of Coyotes due to starvation or disease.
I have personally read about and observed the Pronghorn population south of Tucson near the community of Sonoita suffer due to the coyote praying on the newborns. They have suffered a zero percent survival rate for years.
Game and Fish has transplanted Pronghorn back into this area and has even resorted to aerial gunning killing literally 100’s of Coyotes in a few days. This has helped but the herds continue to suffer.
I agree for the most part that we should eat the game we shoot, but the coyote is not game and although they have their place it’s not everywhere and in unchecked numbers.
As a side note. Most of the Coyotes we trap or call in are skinned.

[Dean Romig]

I agree 100% Phil. They are vermin and should be treated as such.

I wish we could unleash the coyotes upon the wild boar and feral pig populations. What beautiful mayhem that would be.





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[10 bore]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

I agree 100% Phil. They are vermin and should be treated as such.

I wish we could unleash the coyotes upon the wild boar and feral pig populations. What beautiful mayhem that would be.





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Dean'
Remember
wild pigs are doing what wild pigs are suppose to do.

[Dean Romig]

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[mobirdhunter]

Is the term vermin like "weed" (a plant out of place)? There are many times I feel like humans are the vermin.

[Stan Hoover]

I'm a little too young to remember the days when bounty's were paid for shooting hawks and fox pelts brought good money. These were the days before we had coyotes in Pa.
From what I understand, those were the days of bountiful small game, however, modern farming has also had an affect on small game.

Just my opinion, coyotes are hard on deer, woodchucks, and small game, that is why I will shoot them every chance I have.
I also believe if we were allowed to keep the number of hawks in check, our small game would be better off, but not to the level it once may have been. I know this may seem like swearing to some, but to be real honest, we have way too many hawks, I remember 30 years back, it was great to see a red tail hawk, but anymore, we have way too many.

Only my opinions,
Stan Hoover

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon

Is the term vermin like "weed" (a plant out of place)? There are many times I feel like humans are the vermin.

ver·min
/ˈvərmən/
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noun
Wild animals that are believed to be harmful to crops, farm animals, or game, or that carry disease, e.g., rodents.
parasitic worms or insects.
"his clothes are infested with vermin"

People perceived as despicable and as causing problems for the rest of society.
"the vermin who ransacked her house"




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[mobirdhunter]

Sorry. My question was rhetorical ((of a question) asked in order to produce an effect or to make a statement rather than to elicit information.), but Dean's response makes it still a good question to ask.

Thanks, Dean.

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

ver·min
/ˈvərmən/
Learn to pronounce
noun
Wild animals that are believed to be harmful to crops, farm animals, or game, or that carry disease, e.g., rodents.
parasitic worms or insects.
"his clothes are infested with vermin"

People perceived as despicable and as causing problems for the rest of society.
"the vermin who ransacked her house"




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