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Unread 06-14-2020, 09:22 PM   #1
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John, I would have to have the S/N of your gun. I can tell you that we started archiving research letters in 2004 and when searching for your name found none. Ron Kirby did the first letters but didn't archive them. Mark Conrad took over from Ron and did them for about 8 years, then I took over the letters in 2012. Mark started archiving in about 2004. The Order Books ended December 1919 so if there is Order Book information in your letter, it would have had to been made prior to 1920.

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My gun was made in 1926. The serial number is 218350. Also; the letters are not in my name but the prior owner-Carl Balderson.
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boy that was a great find...dean I bet that really excited you and your friend...charlie
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boy that was a great find...dean I bet that really excited you and your friend...charlie

Charlie, I had that Trojan on semi-permanent loan for the next four years when my family moved to a town many miles away and I had to give it back. But during the time I had it I shot pheasants, woodcock, ducks and rabbits with it. I learned to shoot a sxs on that gun even though it was too big for me in the first year or two that I had it.

I wrote about that Trojan in Parker Pages many years ago in my story “The Last Trojan Pheasant.”

I'll start a new thread with a "reprint" of that story.





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Chuck, is there the exact same information on both the work order tags and the book entries with no variations?





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Thanks Chuck - you’re always very accomodating and eager to dig into finding answers to the more generalized questions we may have.





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....... The Order Books ended December 1919.....Chuck
Chuck, are you saying that PB quit using Order Books in Dec. 1919 or that the PGCA doesn’t have any records from Order Books made after that date?
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Chuck, are you saying that PB quit using Order Books in Dec. 1919 or that the PGCA doesn’t have any records from Order Books made after that date?
I wasn't sure if PB stopped using Order Books after 1919 but I was pretty sure they did but wasn't certain until I started looking at the Work Order Tags. The WOT's with S/N's after 1919 do show an order # on the tag so I'm now certain that the Order Books continued at least until Remington ownership. What happened to those books nobody knows. They could have been discarded or given to someone who won't acknowledge they have them. Remington also had codes on their IBM cards but no one knows what they mean.
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Ron Kirby, along with supplying the information available in the dooks, also supplied names of employees and contractors who worked for PB, as having worked on “your” gun. I always suspected he tossed in that info just for embellishment and don’t believe those folks names were actually recorded as having worked on specific serial numbered guns.





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According to what I’ve read, the 2 3/8” chambers were cut to that length to accomodate 2 1/2” shells, presumably to allow the shell to open into the taper of the forcing cone thereby affording a better gas seal.





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Dean, I once had a friend who loved franks and beans. Unfortunately his forcing cone did not have a gas seal. Lol
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