Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Non-Parker Specific & General Discussions Shotgun Shell Reloading

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 11-16-2022, 01:25 PM   #1
Member
6pt-Sika
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
CraigThompson's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 9,499
Thanks: 6,410
Thanked 9,016 Times in 3,961 Posts

Default

Also got my pot fired up today and cast 500 of the 000000 buck and about 35 .795” punkin balls .
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DD8A25C0-E2D8-4E40-9E8F-7E389104AE87.jpg (536.9 KB, 0 views)
File Type: jpg 8E5A9B9F-3DC6-4F3A-9D81-20ED6430264C.jpg (542.5 KB, 0 views)
File Type: jpg DCB52E7C-5BB2-43EE-9C76-841352E1BEE9.jpg (536.7 KB, 0 views)
__________________
Parker’s , 6.5mm’s , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s and my family in the Philippines !
CraigThompson is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to CraigThompson For Your Post:
Unread 11-16-2022, 02:05 PM   #2
Member
Milton C Starr
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 1,509
Thanks: 476
Thanked 1,009 Times in 466 Posts

Default

Craig ive thought of loading up some .820 patched round balls for my 8 gauge as it mics out at the muzzles as .840/.840. I would say it would make a interesting close quarters hog load except im not sure how ideal 36" barrels would be in that situation.

As well raccoons are now considered a pest or varmint in GA so I wonder if they are no longer limited to #2 shot as I believe my T and F shot 8 gauge loads would work wonders on them.
Milton C Starr is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-21-2023, 01:58 PM   #3
Member
6pt-Sika
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
CraigThompson's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 9,499
Thanks: 6,410
Thanked 9,016 Times in 3,961 Posts

Default

Made up six loads using the .775” 730 grain conical slug today for trial in my DH 8 in anticipation of the gun season in WVA . Bores on my DH 8 measure .805” at the muzzle in the right barrel and .800” in the left barrel . Started off by adding hot melt glue to the cavity in the bottom of each slug , then but six layers of masking tape around each slug then trimmed the excess at the bottom . Used new unfired REM hulls primed Cheddarcheeserite primers , used Universal Clays and a #39A bushing or 33.5 grains by the table . Pushed in an SP-8 wad and added five 10 gauge 1/8” cards then the slug pushing down slightly with the loader . Put a little tiny bit of white grease on the edge of the hull and roll crimped . Plan on trying two from the right barrel then two from the left on different targets then finally one from each barrel at the same target . Hopefully they’ll hit a pie plate at 30 yards consistently .
__________________
Parker’s , 6.5mm’s , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s and my family in the Philippines !
CraigThompson is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to CraigThompson For Your Post:
Unread 08-21-2023, 05:51 PM   #4
Member
6pt-Sika
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
CraigThompson's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 9,499
Thanks: 6,410
Thanked 9,016 Times in 3,961 Posts

Default

Just came in from shooting two shot groups at 28 yards two from the right on one target and two from the left on the other . Think I’ll try them again just for chuckles and if they do as well or better I’m ready from West by God Virginia !
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 4431AB9A-45F3-4C25-AC3B-C10D13A66922.jpg (494.9 KB, 0 views)
File Type: jpg 53AD10D7-6835-45CC-9750-AD19DE560B1C.jpg (488.0 KB, 0 views)
__________________
Parker’s , 6.5mm’s , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s and my family in the Philippines !
CraigThompson is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-21-2023, 09:25 PM   #5
Member
charlie cleveland
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 12,986
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7,806 Times in 3,970 Posts

Default

I got my old lifter 8 ga shooting pretty good at 25 steps but past 30 it was no good...have not tried the tape method yet but will soon as I get caught up cleaning all the storm damage we got a coupla weeks ago....I want even mention all the bush hogging....yes I m behind...charlie
charlie cleveland is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to charlie cleveland For Your Post:
Unread 08-21-2023, 10:51 PM   #6
Member
6pt-Sika
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
CraigThompson's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 9,499
Thanks: 6,410
Thanked 9,016 Times in 3,961 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie cleveland View Post
I got my old lifter 8 ga shooting pretty good at 25 steps but past 30 it was no good...have not tried the tape method yet but will soon as I get caught up cleaning all the storm damage we got a coupla weeks ago....I want even mention all the bush hogging....yes I m behind...charlie
That tape while perhaps not The Best choice does two things . First it tightens the slug to the choke and second it has the bearing surface of the slug covered to cut down on lead smears in the bore . I’ll trust it out to thirty yards but not so much past that .
__________________
Parker’s , 6.5mm’s , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s and my family in the Philippines !
CraigThompson is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-22-2023, 02:22 PM   #7
Member
6pt-Sika
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
CraigThompson's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 9,499
Thanks: 6,410
Thanked 9,016 Times in 3,961 Posts

Default

Set down today to load six more to try on paper again then I thought to maybe add ten more for actual use on living creatures . So I loaded sixteen total . Hopefully this afternoon or tommorrow I can try a pair from both barrels at 28 yards again .
__________________
Parker’s , 6.5mm’s , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s and my family in the Philippines !
CraigThompson is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-22-2023, 05:54 PM   #8
Member
charlie cleveland
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 12,986
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7,806 Times in 3,970 Posts

Default

those really look good I hope they shoot well and accurately...I bet this will bring any thing down you shoot at.....charlie
charlie cleveland is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-25-2023, 12:18 AM   #9
Member
ArtS
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2021
Posts: 1,087
Thanks: 104
Thanked 1,544 Times in 572 Posts

Default

Just a note I posted about before. I don't really have a lot to use them for in KY, but when I got an early Scott (1872) Jones underlever hammer single, it had a non-choke barrel which is not unusual in that period. The chamber was a perfect fit for unsized industrial shells. I found that an .810 roundball was a tight push through fit in the barrel when placed in a Gualandi wad. I cut the shotcup back so it reached just past the center of the ball and loaded some of the 2 oz balls in the shotcup with a 7 gauge over powder wad below. I lubed the ball and stuffed some lube in the front of the ball just over the centerline. The hulls were cut so the length could be partially star crimped or roll crimped down against the ball (similar to a Paradox load). They were scary accurate at 30 yards. I didn't do any further work because I had no real use for them and didn't want to waste a lot of 8 gauge components.

That made me believe that unchoked big bore barrels may be preferable for slug/ball loads. Just maybe pushing sub-bore projectiles through a choke is a compromise. Either a tight naked slug with a seal wad behind or a tight encased ball or wad though the same unchoked barrel may be a better combo. These of course would require a slug or ball tailored to the bore. I was lucky to be able to buy them from a supplier.

If any one has an 8 or 10 gauge with no choke, it would be an interesting avenue to address. A lot of the slugs mentioned in this thread are very close to the bore diameter of the 9 gauge barrels which seems to be the dominant size used on early 10's. Many of these guns had no choke. I own a couple. That would be an easier and cheaper platform to experiment with.
Arthur Shaffer is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-25-2023, 01:44 AM   #10
Member
6pt-Sika
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
CraigThompson's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 9,499
Thanks: 6,410
Thanked 9,016 Times in 3,961 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur Shaffer View Post
Just a note I posted about before. I don't really have a lot to use them for in KY, but when I got an early Scott (1872) Jones underlever hammer single, it had a non-choke barrel which is not unusual in that period. The chamber was a perfect fit for unsized industrial shells. I found that an .810 roundball was a tight push through fit in the barrel when placed in a Gualandi wad. I cut the shotcup back so it reached just past the center of the ball and loaded some of the 2 oz balls in the shotcup with a 7 gauge over powder wad below. I lubed the ball and stuffed some lube in the front of the ball just over the centerline. The hulls were cut so the length could be partially star crimped or roll crimped down against the ball (similar to a Paradox load). They were scary accurate at 30 yards. I didn't do any further work because I had no real use for them and didn't want to waste a lot of 8 gauge components.

That made me believe that unchoked big bore barrels may be preferable for slug/ball loads. Just maybe pushing sub-bore projectiles through a choke is a compromise. Either a tight naked slug with a seal wad behind or a tight encased ball or wad though the same unchoked barrel may be a better combo. These of course would require a slug or ball tailored to the bore. I was lucky to be able to buy them from a supplier.

If any one has an 8 or 10 gauge with no choke, it would be an interesting avenue to address. A lot of the slugs mentioned in this thread are very close to the bore diameter of the 9 gauge barrels which seems to be the dominant size used on early 10's. Many of these guns had no choke. I own a couple. That would be an easier and cheaper platform to experiment with.
This was last year with a.795” roundball and four wraps of masking tape . The second picture was 2021 with the PH 8 I used to posses and 000000 buck they’re .415” and ten of them in the shell .
Attached Images
File Type: jpg D7B59001-2B8D-4EC5-A6E9-77229A89F259.jpg (543.2 KB, 0 views)
File Type: jpg 20F8494D-5A23-408A-ABC6-4392F94AB54E.jpg (550.3 KB, 0 views)
__________________
Parker’s , 6.5mm’s , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s and my family in the Philippines !
CraigThompson is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:46 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2025, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.