Remington 1894 CEO

[Researcher]

Originally Posted by John Dallas

Did Remington ever make a SBT?

Not until they made Parker SBTs.

The 1909 Remington Arms Co. catalog was the last to include break-action guns, and there was a 1909 catalog without the break-action guns. Remington had a clear view of their shotgun future, and it was with their John M. Browning designed Remington Autoloading Gun (later Model 11) and their John D. Pedersen designed Remington Repeating Shotgun (later Model 10). In February 1910, Remington Arms Co. struck a deal with Norvell-Shapleigh Hardware Co. for their entire inventory of break-action guns.

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[charlie cleveland]

remington doubles are fine guns i have a b grade with ordance barrels and a a grade 10 ga with steel barrels... your gun is really nice....charlie

[Joe Graziano]

Great pics. I enjoy seeing the varying engraving patterns in the early guns. The change is notable as Remington standardized the grades. Beautiful guns.

[Dean Romig]

Wow - What an important document Dave!





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[B. Dudley]

Then there was a later time (the late 50s I believe) when a boss at Remington instructed that all invoices, sales orders and paperwork related to double gun manufacture (except production records) be destroyed. Oh the value of information that was in that...

As an aside, Remington did consider getting back into the Double business in the early 50s, but they acknowledged that they could not make a Parker (as they knew it mechanically) at a profit. So they did design an economy type boxlock that was to receive the Parker name. (Much like Ithaca did with Lefever). At least one prototype was built. Bit it never went anywhere, obviously.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley

Then there was a later time (the late 50s I believe) when a boss at Remington instructed that all invoices, sales orders and paperwork related to double gun manufacture (except production records) be destroyed. Oh the value of information that was in that...

Then how do we explain the survival of the Parker Stock Books and Order Books? They contained reams of recorded sales orders and records of double gun production.





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[chris dawe]

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley

Then there was a later time (the late 50s I believe) when a boss at Remington instructed that all invoices, sales orders and paperwork related to double gun manufacture (except production records) be destroyed. Oh the value of information that was in that...

As an aside, Remington did consider getting back into the Double business in the early 50s, but they acknowledged that they could not make a Parker (as they knew it mechanically) at a profit. So they did design an economy type boxlock that was to receive the Parker name. (Much like Ithaca did with Lefever). At least one prototype was built. Bit it never went anywhere, obviously.

Are there any existing photos of the prototype?

[B. Dudley]

Originally Posted by chris dawe

Are there any existing photos of the prototype?

The prototype that I refer to is in the Remington museum. It is unmarked. And has no description or label.
I was not aware of one that Art owned. I would be interested in seeing that.

[Big D]

Remington introduced their 3200 in 1973 as a counter to the Citori which was becoming a big success. In order to compete with the Citori, which was being made in Japan with cheap labor, Remington developed a highly mechanized process which did not rely on a lot of labor. I shot one of my 3200's yesterday. Still one of my favorite guns.

[Dean Romig]

Art Wheaton donated his to the NRA Museum in Fairfax and to the best of my knowledge it is still on display with the Peterson collection.

....if that is one of the prototypes....



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