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07-30-2019, 04:45 PM
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When we first started hunting grouse in Minnesota we encountered quite a few folks in vehicles that would drive along and either hop out and shoot a grouse when they saw it, or shoot it from the window. The latter method is illegal in Minnesota.
Over the years as four-wheelers became the norm, they replaced the vehicles (I think the rise in gas prices also had an effect)...and we started running into them on the trails far from roads. While I don't like this "method," I live with it, knowing that every license bought brings in Pittman-Robertson funds into the State for conservation work. Minnesota has responded to the four-wheeler issue by setting aside land that is for walking hunters only. As good a compromise as I can imagine. I must admit the four-wheelers make the trails easier to walk after they push down the grasses and ferns. As for "ground swatting" that's a state-by-state situation. It is not unusual in quail states for there to be explicit laws against shooting upland game birds on the ground (turkeys not considered an upland bird, but either "big game" or game unto themselves). I just cannot see a justification for shooting a wild Bobwhite on the ground. To me, even if it's not legal, I think it's dangerous, unethical, and just wrong. If you are killing a winged bird, shooting on the ground is another matter. Shooting ducks on the water -- only to kill a crippled bird. Shooting a turkey on the roost -- illegal in all the states I hunt in, and unethical in my book. There are too few birds to not have the highest standards for their taking. It's called sport hunting not because it's a game, but because there are rules. Those rules can be written into law, or held by the hunter's own conscience and ethical sense.
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07-30-2019, 01:11 PM
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Dean, of course I am referring to only "legal" methods of road hunting.
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07-30-2019, 09:29 PM
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The term "sport hunting" was originally coined to set what we do apart from market hunting or subsistence hunting, where it is expected that the hunter take birds or game by any means and method that was the most economical to the hunter.... Punt guns anyone?... or grouse snares... or ground swatting or shooting birds out of trees...
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07-30-2019, 09:45 PM
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Steve thanks for the Kurt Gowdy FLASHBACK. My brother and I spent many wonderful times together watching the different guest each week hunting game in so many areas.
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 And being a Red Sox fan, Curt was also the voice of the Boston Red Sox when I was a kid!https://thelandofwhatever.blogspot.c...sman-1965.html
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I know a gentleman who was involved in the show's production back then. I asked him if there was a chance it would ever be released on dvd. he said that the original films were not kept, only a few snippets remain - the show is lost to history.
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07-31-2019, 11:09 AM
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Couldn't get much better then Bing & Phil sweatin' after Chukars in the Snake River canyons. Though, Andy Devine hunting with his .410-bore Parker and Bob Stack shooting with "The Wee Scot" Sir Jackie Stewart were both pretty great episodes.
As far as New Jersey Grouse go, Capt. Money and his elder son Noel must have shot them all, when in one week in the mid-1890s they shot over 100 according to Noel's shooting journals. |
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