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[Victor Wasylyna]

In my opinion, this gun is a steal anywhere near the opening bid price. Buy It Now price is fair retail. I hope someone here pulls the trigger.

-Victor

[Wild Skies]

Originally Posted by Victor Wasylyna

In my opinion, this gun is a steal anywhere near the opening bid price. Buy It Now price is fair retail. I hope someone here pulls the trigger.

-Victor

Bingo! Personally, I wouldn't consider selling either of my SCCs for multiples of the opening bid price.

Paul, Victor has alluded to the fact of the subject gun being stamped "ISC", this stamping positively identifies the gun as a Sporting Clays Classic model. Victor also mentioned there being several posts on this forum about the SCCs chamber length. I have personally measured more than a handful of SCCs -- all of them measured 3" despite each and and every one of them stamped 2 3/4". Other owners of SCCs that actually measured their gun's chamber length have, too; reported them having 3" -- again, all were stamped as having 2 3/4" chambers.

Scot, I recall our little discussion we had where you made a pretty good argument concerning the versatility of your 20/16 bi-gauge set. Now you're promoting your pair of unfired SSSs as the mac-daddy of Repros. I guess I can't blame you, as I'd be pretty proud of them, too. I'm sure you remember that I owned an unfired SSS, too; but ended up selling it because my SCCs did everything the SSS could do, but with even more versatility.

[MD*GSP]

To be clear, in my personal opinion, the 20/16 offering is what I consider to be the most desirable of all Repro’s followed by the 28ga offerings. For me, the 16 pretty much does it all & the 20’s not that far behind. (I’m not a waterfowler or Turkey hunter) But, as a matter of true versatility - how does one beat the SCC? Woodcock in the am, quail in the afternoon, Pheasant in the evening and ducks the next morning - all with one gun; the SCC.

If you review my comment you’ll take note I touted the SSS as the mac-daddy of 12ga Repro’s.

[Victor Wasylyna]

I measured the chambers of my two 12 gauge Repros. One is a Sporting Clays Classic (28 inch barrels; splinter; pistol grip). The other is not (26 inch barrels; beavertail; straight grip). Both are marked as having 2 3/4 inch chambers. Both have 3 inch chambers. Perhaps what we are calling “3 inch chambers” technically are just long “2 3/4 inch chambers”? See photos.

-Victor

[Wild Skies]

Victor, thanks for making the effort to measure your guns chambers. Did you purchase your 12-ga. 26" gun new and are you the original owner? If not, are you absolutely positive that the gun hasn't had its chambers lengthened?

[Victor Wasylyna]

Originally Posted by Greg Baehman

Victor, thanks for making the effort to measure your guns chambers. Did you purchase your 12-ga. 26" gun new and are you the original owner? If not, are you absolutely positive that the gun hasn't had its chambers lengthened?

No, not the original owner. But who would lengthen the chambers of a 26 inch 12 gauge that already handles 2 3/4 inch shells? Pretty sure it’s factory original.

-Victor

[Wild Skies]

Originally Posted by Victor Wasylyna

No, not the original owner. But who would lengthen the chambers of a 26 inch 12 gauge that already handles 2 3/4 inch shells?

-Victor

Perhaps a waterfowler that wanted to shoot 3" steel loads through it without having the need to open any chokes. There could be other reasons - that's just one.

[MD*GSP]

A review of the Saami drawing of a 2-3/4" chamber (pg18)

The only way to get a true measurement is to make a plug at .798ø, drop it in and obtain the measurement. The plug end that's inserted into the chamber must have a dead sharp edge and the diameter (.798) is a basic dimension due to the fact all dims are at maximum material condition..meaning, no tolerance at all for the plug ø. The Saami spec was issued May 1979 & was revised July 2015 however it doesn't say what revision it is. (e.g., A,B,C, etc). There's also a note that clearly states "chamber lengths (per the standard) have been lengthened. Without a review of all revisions since 1979, that indicates the 'official' lengths increased in 2015. Therefore, since the PR's were made long before the revision...you have 3" chambers in a SCC despite the fact they're marked 2-3/4".

[Wild Skies]

Thank you Scot for helping to bring some clarity to the drawings.

In regards to Victor's 12-ga, 26" gun's 3" chamber length . . . I recall a thread or two in this forum where a poster that was quite close to the development of the SSS intimated or suggested that all 28" 12 and 20-ga. Repro barrels were factory chambered for 3" shells. Is there the possibility that all 12-ga. Repro barrels, 26", 28" & 30" lengths, have 3" chambers? I know that there are 20 and 28-ga. 26" Repros which were not chambered for 3" shells, but I have never owned a 12-ga. 26" Repro, nor have I measured, nor do I recall anyone posting - other than Victor - that their 26" 12-ga. Repro has 3" chambers despite them having only the 2 3/4" stampings.

Wouldn't it be great if owners of 12-ga. 26" Repros would weigh in with their findings?

[MD*GSP]

You're welcome Greg. In the quick review I did make a bit of an overstatement stating in part, "the only way to obtain a true measurement". That should read the only practical way to..

Frankly, I think the topic's a silly hang-up on technical mumbo-jumbo to tell you the truth..