"V3" coded B grade

[B. Dudley]

Originally Posted by Bill Holcombe

Interesting, didn't realize PGCA was on bad terms with Remington. Personally I think the PGCA does a pretty good job of promoting and researching the parker gun.

Well... There is still bad blood with some inside the Remington Society. But that is aside the point. Most anyone actually at Remington that was involved is long gone at this point.

[Dean Romig]

The PGCA is not on "bad" terms with Remington Arms.

Let us just say that over time and with events that have taken place, and with the 'changing of the guard' at Remington, the PGCA is not on the same terms with Remington that it once enjoyed.






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[Southpaw]

I think Remington/JP Morgan have bigger things to worry about. Understand JP Morgo retired $775 mil in debt to take a large stake in the company when they emerged from bankruptcy in May. Parker brand is in cryogenic stasis or better yet alive but on ice probably in their view. PGCA is definitely creating brand value for them at little to marginal expense to maintain copyrights and patents. If there is ever a revival of SXS interest and Old Reliable they will be grateful for this organization and its die hard followers. Guarantee if JP is calling shots and they could make money with Parker Brand, they would be your best new buddy. They are really scratching their heads right now along with Ruger and alot of gun companies.

I have an idea to get more interest in SXS's again. Increase the bag limit in migratory game birds but limit magazine size down from 3 to 2 rounds. Pigs will fly before that happens but it would work.

[King Cobb]

I would never be in favor of raising bag limits. Certainly not for something as trivial as restoring interest in SxS.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Bill Holcombe

I would never be in favor of raising bag limits. Certainly not for something as trivial as restoring interest in SxS.

I get your position and appreciate it but it is not trivial what is happening to gun industry. Big believer in proper limits and game management; however bag and creel limits do change rightly and wrongly. Would someone ever push a narrative to eliminate millions of semi automatic hunting guns, but then just say double barrel guns are okay, stranger things have happened like a little thing called Prohibition. Never in my lifetime did I think Marijuana would be legalized in US, guess what.

It would be a slippery slope though for sure and its give and take proposition at best as a compromise. NRA, gun manufacture lobby, hunters collective cry might be the second loudest sound ever noted by mankind behind Krakatoa explosion if it were to happen.

Like I said Pigs might probably fly about then as well. Its just a theory, but how far fetched really is it. Recall most semi-autos shotguns have a magazine that can hold 4 shells but are supposed to be plug limited to only hold 2 rounds when hunting migratory game. It would not be hard for the Fed to just make that regulation change with the quick stroke of a pen and not change bag limits at all and they can do it on a whim calling it a test and it have nothing to do with how a gun is made or what type.

Besides even it were to happen not certain it would help sxs market but only a little, it would probably just mean sales of O/U would increase by a way more exponential factor.

Btw I also have simple rule change that would make game of football safer and eliminate confusing targeting and head lowering penalties. I will refrain as that might be too much to absorb and already off thread topic way more than I should be.

[Phil C]

I do not want to side track this post but for educational purposes I am sharing pictures and information on my shotgun wiith original Vulcan Steel barrels.

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[Jeff K.]

Looks like Canadian wood to me! LOL