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Unread 01-19-2018, 12:52 PM   #1
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The police officer quickly stopped that train of thought and just said...."between the eyes"
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A small moving target under stress ?

Anyone giving realistic advice will say center mass

As for racking the pump gun. These are the same Hollywierd folks that always have to work the slide on a pistol to chamber a round when they draw
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I guess there was a time when there just wasn't a whole lot of black guns running around but someone wanted protection of home, there small shop, etc. They are not thinking about the future value and they just did not need a long barreled sxs. Most people think in the here and now and at that time they were convinced cutting off the barrell to make it less wieldly and open up the pattern for close range was more important that chasing birds with that gun anymore.

Heck probably a lot of these guns that are sawed off might of already had broken or damaged stocks and the sawing off the barrel was just an adaptive reuse since it might only need to be shot one more time and they were not to worried about that stock and gun value. They were probably relatively cheap, plentiful, reliable and very effective, heck there was even a time when it was illegal to own a shotgun that had less than x inch of barrels because so effective and relatively easy to conceal and shoot.

Most people need training and practice to shoot a hand gun reasonably well, not so much with a sawed off shotgun. I think with advent of more black guns for self defense the old saw off shotguns are now coming out and since they say Parker on them they think there is a huge premium and that we will overlook the damage and adaptive reuse to get the brand.

Here is a question for home defense, which gun would you reach for?
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No one in the house, or near my house for that matter but Robin and I. Sig P220 .45, and aan AR Carbine in .300 Blackout. I’m chuckling as I write this, but on Robins side of the bed, (I travel a lot) is a savage fox 12 gauge BE with barrels cut to 18 1/8th!, with the stock cut to pistol, and a 30 rd .22 magnum automatic, the make of which escapes me at the moment.

However, should I ever decide to place the fox on GunBroker, I suppose I should describe it as the “gangbanger” model and ask a couple of grand for it!
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I'd like to find a app for my phone which represents the slam closing of a pump shotgun
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I'd like to find a app for my phone which represents the slam closing of a pump shotgun
An empty gun is not of much use, unless its a pump shotgun. Anyone that knows that sound and hears that action knows what it means. I'd say its the next best thing to a warning shot, without being a warning shot. It also has a distinct sound for when that shell rattles around and then hits the tube as opposed to just working the action.

I have Browning BPS turkey gun with synthetic stock that has a 25 inch barrel, and day glow sites. It can shoot 3.5 inch shells and I keep two in the magazine with #4 shot and I have a cylinder choke in it.

I even have a script that I have practiced in my mind. Work the action loudly and aggressively, and then tell them I have a gun and have already called the police. If they have not already left the premises at that point I figure its go time.
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I'd like to find a app for my phone which represents the slam closing of a pump shotgun
Here is one, I'm sure there are others.....

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...gun.free&hl=en
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Yes, I love my doubles and all, but there is nothing like the shock and awe value of clicking a pump gun right before you fire.
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Working the action on a pump gun is like hearing a rattlesnake.When you hear it you know exactly what it is and start looking for an exit.
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Working the action on a pump gun is like hearing a rattlesnake.When you hear it you know exactly what it is and start looking for an exit.
many many years ago- someone was trying to break into house i had then

as i kicked the front door to the porch open i racked the foreend on the pump gun i had then-

whoever it was ran full speed into an August cornfield and kept going- that cannot have felt good
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The click of a pump gun and the rattle of a rattlesnake are two sounds that you never forget, once you hear once.
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