BSA Natl Jamboree

[Bill Murphy]

Bruce, the storm went through here 35 miles north of D.C. just before 1:00 PM I think. Lots of rain, lots of lightning, not as much wind as the fatal storm last week. Sun is out bright right now. I hope you guys can get back in business now that the storm has passed.

[Bruce Day]

Hello Bill. Trap, five stand and all shotgun sports are open, archery, fishing, rapelling, zip lines, rifle range, most open except us. We are a mudhole and would be risking broken collarbones if we opened. The tires had churned the dust to fine flour consistancy and its slippery than owl ----. Accident free so far, except for the occasional wipeout that the kids love to talk about , and nothing serious enough to call the medics....and we aim to keep it that way. We are running about 300 boys per day through our event.

[Gill Frye]

I attended BSNJ in 1973, still got all my patches and a new jamporee shirt still in the plastic.....great memories! I don't remember the president showing up though.

[Old and Reliable]

But his Veep- Michigan's boy (by way of Nebraska) Gerald R. Ford was an Eagle Scout and Order of the Arrow- 1973- Nixon still lying to the voters, as he did in 1969 about how we were NOT in Laos or Cambodia (and the Ho Chi Minh trail was paved in cement with lane markers)--

Mr. Murphy- I meant no slur on the reserves and week-end warriors, our second Prez. name of Bush was one- ANG in TX-- In 1968 in Detroit, the riots- Guard Units were sent back from their two week summer tour at Camp Grayling to Detroit to protect the brave firemen from the rioters and looters- they were issued live rounds for their M-16's I was told-

Col.-- I like your analysis of the Ladies show "The View"-- our current POTUS seems to like the "distaff side"- with two daughters, Hillary as Sec'y of State, and two recent female noms to The Supremes-- but if you look back over our Nation's History- rich (Oprah) and college educated or otherwise motivated "Do-Gooders" have been responsible for, in the end result, more Sturm und Drang than any men have wrought- Harriett Beecher Stowe and Julia Ward Howe- their "do-gooder" words got us embroilled in a War that killed over 600,000 Americans and accomplished very little as a result- better they should have "goosed that faceful lighting with their own Swiss swords"-- Carrie Nation and her ilk- lead to the Volstead Act of 1919- which gave us Al Capone, Bugs Moran, Heimie Weiss, the Purple Gang etc-- and wasn't removed until 1933- by a Pres. who loved his dry martinis at his infamous "Children's Hour"-- Dorothy Sanger, whose efforts allowed the Gov't to meddle in the bedroom and later, vis a vis the Hayes Act- Hollywood and the Stage- and who was the most influential in the Suffragette Movement which allowed women the right and option to vote and meddle in politics- And then we were "blessed" with the infamous poor little rich gal Patty Hearst and her entics with the SLA and the gals who followed Charles Manson--who knows, if the current trend continues- we will see our beloved BSA merged with the GSA and become known as the "Persons Scout of America"--

[Autumn Daze]

Francis,What the h--l are ya talking about?

[TARNATION !!!]

Not to answer for Francis but I'm thinking BSA + GSA = PSA which in most jurisdictions is a freebie but nothing to do with the great outdoors, unless purely by chance. Also, POTUS + V or + O = increased probability of FV in a possibly desperate move to garner 2ndT. Or something like that. Maybe I confused myself. Bottom line is maybe something like be very careful not to snub the BSA as there are many MV's for the next contender and any POTUS worth "his" salt was involved with the BSA. Not too sure about NG and TX, although I understand both references. Maybe something like "rations un-delivered" = RU, which makes sense maybe as NG + TX + RU can = X-GRUNT, which we all understand is tied directly to FREEDOM, a pre-requisite to pursue the happiness some find right here.

Or, maybe ......... nah, I'm way too confused now.

Jack

[Bruce Day]

There are about 40,000 here, not a significant number when you consider the millions who sob along with Oprah or Whoopie on a daily basis. There are about 1,000,000 presently registered in Scouting but many more who were once in Scouts and remember it fondly. Of course the boys don't vote, but their parents and many alumni and friends of Scouting do.

[james van blaricum]

Bruce: sounds like you are having a very good time. I was at the Nat. Jamboree
right after the end of WW2.It was at Valley Forge, Still have my patches and vest and I am sure I have all the slides I took, some place. Will never forget the
trip on the train from Dodge City Kansas. An old troop train. Hope the weather is better than it is here .!00 degrees + . Have been in Colorado for two weeks and came home to this. James Van Blaricum









City

[TARNATION !!!]

As a youngster I went through the Cub Scout program, ending it as the Senior Sixer for the pack. I learned there not to lead with my chin in the boxing ring and understood that "seeing stars" can actually happen. The time did instill life values of "doing your best" and "doing a good turn every day". I think I missed a few days of that along the way. I moved on to Boy Scouts and only lasted a couple of meetings. Of all things, money was the issue. Folks too poor to handle uniform costs, having added two more mouths to feed since I got my Cub gear. So no national or international jamborees for me. I have a great respect for the Scouting movement.

Francis: In my own way, I was trying to help Dave understand, since he asked Yes, I am Canadian eh. I agree Blue Hockey and Walleye are all good. I also feel I'm a citizen of the global village. Scotch Rugby and Char are also good. I'm not above enjoying squashed grapes from Chile, Italy, France, Australia or the Napa Valley. Summer of '69 ?? A musical reference to follow your looking down the barrels at 70 and surmising you might be 69 during this summer. You have a few years on me, if that is the case - my next b'day being 63.
X-GRUNT was a way to recognize Vets for whom I have great respect. My father was RCAF and father-in-law ARMY. No matter what one's politics might be, I believe those who served the aims of their nation while recognizing it may well end their personal "tour" on this planet deserve respect. Vietnam was a divisive war on the US home front but I was dismayed, at the time, how some returning military were being treated. Never met a "Hippie". I don't abide criminals, regardless of gender. I also believe that both genders can and do contribute to improving the human condition but I do not think humans, as a species, can achieve peaceful co-existence. I always wonder why that is so elusive, as when traveling abroad and meeting ordinary folk, we all seem to have the same basic goals. Happiness and a better future for our kids. For me to apply the bumper sticker would not be right, as I wasn't there. But, I would display the sticker on a "steel tomb", if it were signed by one who was there. I would enjoy sharing a beverage of choice. We would not see eye to eye on everything but then what would the world be if we all thought alike. Debate is good.

Cheers,
Jack

[Old and Reliable]

Thanks Jack-- and for those who want me to burn the Soap Box- "A Boy Scout is Brave, Clean and Reverent" with the emphasis here on CLEAN- as in Dial soap- the old 5 S's every day of my life, one of them being Shower-

For my critics here, let me remind you that All the Ten apply, especially the First- another gent raised the question about out POTUS not attending the BSA event- I don't agree with our POTUS (My right as a citizen, Veteran and voter, as it is yours too) and as a member of the BSA, I voiced my distain for his absence from said event- If you don't like my responses, or try some BS (Boy Scouting) meter, perhaps you might want to use your delete button in the future-

Our Great Country is going to Hades in a handbasket, and I refuse to sit back quietly and watch it happen without protest or comment. And yes, I blame the "Do-Gooders", many of whom are female (or were, if past tense is involved) and if that makes me a anti-fem, so be it- I still open doors for them and say Yes M'am- even when I have no idea what they are about--