CH Bernard on hold

[Spin Drift]

Another try on the cheeks. 121,xxx S/N range

[ch]

Did you go look at the old girl Forrest?

[ForrestArmstrong]

Calvin, I'll see her tomorrow morning.
Buttplate is impregnated with Acraglas or some kind of epoxy.

[ch]

Sounds like fun!

[Bill Murphy]

I don't understand Mike Moffa's comment about "checkered cheeks between serial number". What serial numbers? I think checkered cheeks were special order or aftermarker on C grades. I don't know that serial numbers had anything to do with it. The last picture of checkered cheeks does not look like factory work.

[B. Dudley]

The most important feature of factory checkered cheeks is that the panel should be recessed with a beveled edge. The panel is actually carved out. Then checkered.

There are other more minor things to look for, but If the panel does not look like this, it is likely not factory.

[edgarspencer]

Brian, there is a lot of variation in original Parker checkered cheeks, and not all are as extreme, with repsect to the beveled edge, as the C which Bruce has shown.

This is an untouched BHE, in the 189K sn range, and as you can see there is only a minor bevel to the leading, vertical edge. The panels are sunk below the outer edge, but not as significantly as that which Bruce has shown.
I am not remotely convinced that Forrest's CH is not original, and I don't think there is enough photographic evidence to suggest conclusively otherwise.

[B. Dudley]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

Brian, there is a lot of variation in original Parker checkered cheeks, and not all are as extreme, with repsect to the beveled edge, as the C which Bruce has shown.

This is an untouched BHE, in the 189K sn range, and as you can see there is only a minor bevel to the leading, vertical edge. The panels are sunk below the outer edge, but no as significantly as that which Bruce has shown.
I am not remotely convinced the Forrest's CH is not original, and I don't think there is enough photographic evidence to suggest conclusively otherwise.

Note that i said the panel should be recessed. I did not say how much as i know there is variation. So, basically you are just supporting what i said???

I respect your thoughts that the subject gun may not be altered from factory specs. Can you tell me what your thoughts are on the near 90 degree angle of the checkering lines on cheeks and butt? And also on how fine the checkering is on the butt?

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley

Note that i said the panel should be recessed. I did not say how much as i know there is variation. So, basically you are just supporting what i said???

I respect your thoughts that the subject gun may not be altered from factory specs. Can you tell me what your thoughts are on the near 90 degree angle of the checkering lines on cheeks and butt? And also on how fine the checkering is on the butt?

You did see my post, #40, didn't you? If the GB listing had photos as clear as the Fox River photos, I don't think there would have been much question. Am I agreeing with you? If you say so, but I don't think I'm DISagreeing with you.
The butt does seem a finer lpi than normal, but unless the ssbp was reset lower, how would one be able to recut the checkering over the top of the original ?I don't think they could have doubled it, since half would be very coarse. I'm sure if we accept that there was variation in checkered cheeks, we could assume that checkered butts may have varied also.
This direction seems to deviate from Forrest's original question. I think he gathered that most thought it was a good value, without too much concern for certain 'oddities' .

[DoubleOframe]

This CH as for sale earlier this year.

http://www.foxriversporting.com/prod...s-1896-antique