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Thanks Bill..... Looks like I am in business. I really like light loads. I think this will do great.They look great and at those pressures my old gun will smile. If I could get it to kick like a 22 rifle I would. lol I am not to familiar with shotgun powders or loading shotshells. But I will definitely give this one a try. Have you ever tried putting more shot in your 3/4 reciepe? like maybe 7/8 Just wondering I have shot the Falcon ultra light and although I like the minimal kick they seemed to break clay in to big pieces. Maybe my aim. Second thought I am pretty sure its my aim One other question have you ever loaded these with fiber wads. I kinda like the expanded pattern I get. Plastic wads at 30yds are only about 24inches in dia. with my gun with Holland & Holland fiber wads they are about 32 in. dia. Is 25 about where I should want to be?? 30 yards seems pretty far for such a small pattern.
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The mec jr DOES resize the brass, just a different way. It has a sizing ring where as the grabber, sizemaster, 9000, and supersizer have a collet with fingers. Federal and all the foreign shells are a straight walled hull where the Win and Rem have a tapered wall. The CB-1100 was made for the TW hull. CB also makes a wad for the SW hull even though they claim the other wads will work in the SW hull, which they will - they're just a loose fit and allow some blow by. If you load the powder and take the shell out of the press and shake it with your finger over the ends you probably find powder has got by the wad. Next time you buy some wads do yourself a favor and buy the other wads - believe they're a CB-2100-12 for straight walled hulls.
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I have not tried anything heavier than 0.72 oz in my 2 1/2" loads. I'm using these loads in a 1900 vintage H&H hammer gun with steel barrels that has the 2 1/2" chambers. The gun is Nitro Proofed for 1 1/8 oz loads according to the proof marks but I'm just sticking with the light loads for that gun. You could easily go to 7/8 ounce with that wad (neon green Clay Buster CB6100-12). Might have to bump the powder up a tad tho. Should be published recipes for that load. I just haven't tried it. I have an early A grade 12 gauge Fox that I also use the same basic loads for but use the 2 3/4" Win AA and Remington tapered wall hulls and the appropriate CB0175-12 wads. Same Circle Fly wads in the bottom of the shot cup to take up space. And for your 12 gauge Sterlingworth, 2 3/4" shells are fine for that gun. No need to go to 2 1/2". And as you mention, you like them "light". I have not used fiber wads but as you found out, those loads would tend to open up more than shot cups. As an aside, I load some 12 gauge loads using un-popped pop corn kernals for shooting red squirrels in the barn. Don't have to worry about shooting holes in the roof. And they actually work good for skeet station 8 shots. I use 12 grains of that Alliant Extra Light powder, cut the bottom of a CB 0175-12 wad to use over the powder and the rest pop corn. Can get 0.3 ounces of pop corn in that load. I've patterned them in the snow, and as you point out, opens up the pattern. But fine for anything less than about 20 - 25 feet. Speaking of Alliant Extra Light powder, it's been kind of hard to find but is a great light 12 gauge light load powder. IMR 700X is good too for slightly heavier loads: 0.6 and 0.72 ounce loads. Hope some of this helps. |
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Bill, I use a similar popcorn load on bears that cannot seem to stay away from the house. At 25 yards a shot between the hind legs makes them huff a bit but they learn the lesson.
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i certainly hope you wear your Genesee beer t shirt then only seems appropriate
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Luckily Gary, we don't have to worry about bears.
Has it ever just made them mad and then looking for a fight? Then I guess, you just switch from pop corn to lead. |
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Bill thanks for the info... I think I can get several loads out of this info. I am looking forward to experimenting ( within reason) the info I got on this form. I really didn't know there were so many different ways to load a shotgun shell, wads, hulls, powder, crimp and on it goes. Oh well I guess figuring all that out is half the fun of reloading. Keeps it interesting.
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