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Unread 05-06-2015, 08:21 AM   #1
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Dave, I have never shot Crazy Quail-- because of the timing, are ejector guns a better choice, or are extractors fine. This may be a moot point as I would probably have a slim chance on making the team--although I did tie the 20 ga winner last year on Sun. when I was just shooting a practice round with Edgar and Allan, using my old VHE 20. I will give it a try.
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I agree with what Geo. and Frank had to say. Cheaters will cheat no matter how closely they are monitored. Case in point- A few years back at Ernie's I was shooting with a well know shooter whom I won't mention by name, but, he's always in the running for the Bo-Whoop. As we progressed through the course we got behind another well known shooter who consistently is in the top 2 of any gauge he shoots. My partner noticed that he was constantly changing choke tubes and seeing "pieces" which no one else saw. He was warned by my partner but, a few stations later he was seen doing the same thing. Ernie was notified and that was all it took.

Bottom line- it's the indian not the arrow. If Mark is man enough to shoot his 14lb. 8ga. then have at it. I'm there to have fun. If I shoot well so be it. I am not concerned about any of the people I shoot with or who are members of our fine organizations cheating.
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Last year we were behind a group of guys who were reusing their score cards so they could shoot again for free. Unfortunately in any group activity, competition or not, there are always people who aren't happy just having fun. In the long run one or a few peoples ill gotten gain often ruins it for the group as a whole. Fortunately, they weren't competitors.
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I will not weigh in on the controversy.

But to answer Mr Harold Pickens question. Yes ejectors would help.
I have shot crazy quail many times previously. Depending upon the timing setting it can be a very/ very fast game and ejectors will most certainly help.

I believe I read someone said it would be slowed down between clay releases this year which IMO will help make it less "crazy" and allow the teams to develop a strategy and plan and execute on each bird. I have never been to HH so I am not speaking with fact or experience for that event just my experiences in the past shooting crazy quail at other events.
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To further clarify on the Crazy Quail, I shot the challenge last year under this format. Like John said, the typical Crazy Quail setup is quite fast, and hard to shoot with a sxs whether you have ejectors or not. I shot it at Backwoods one year and I don't think I've ever heated up a set of barrels like that before. At the FPC last year they slowed this down to where you were shooting a report pair with the first bird going on your call. I do recall the trapper saying he may speed them up a tad, but never quite a true pair. What made this interesting is that the four machines are constantly spinning on the base, so every pair called for is different. I personally liked this because it gave no advantage to the team going second, not allowing them to watch the presentations and deciding how to shoot before they hit the line. I had a great time shooting this event and look forward to it this year. Harold, if you can score enough on the clays course to make the team I think you'd be deadly in this competition. It's more instinctive shooting than anything.

I'm also looking forward to having both organizations in one tent this year, it should be a lot of fun.

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To further clarify on the Crazy Quail, I shot the challenge last year under this format. Like John said, the typical Crazy Quail setup is quite fast, and hard to shoot with a sxs whether you have ejectors or not. I shot it at Backwoods one year and I don't think I've ever heated up a set of barrels like that before. Mike
Mike is right on. I shot this last year and my barrels got so burning hot. With a splinter forend I couldn't even handle the gun. I don't usually shoot with a glove but Suponski let me borrow his.

Shooting this event requires a glove or a gun with a beavertail.
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That's the first rational post by Tool Man in a long time
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what choke combo would work best for the Parker, Fox shoot ?
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The Fox Phila office asks if the campers at the NE SxS will do a retake of this print?


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For the final event with the Crazy Quail I would use Lt.MOD/Lt.FULL
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