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Unread 01-12-2015, 08:47 PM   #1
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The ejectors ride in slot cut into the underside of the doll's head and stop against a stop plate mortised into the end of the doll's head.
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I just said that...As an aside. Have you ever extracted shells from an extractor gun without a dolls head? It is much easier without that infernal contraption in the way....
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Thanks very much Drew. On page 67, my gun is mentioned exactly as it is in the research letter. Really cool.
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Interesting that old time live bird shooters would order Parker Bros. doubles without a rib extension. Certainly couldn't do that with an L.C. Smith or Lefever, and I've never seen a Remington hammerless without a rib extension. A "third bite" was often a feature of English Pigeon Guns.
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The third bite in British guns is not on the breech face and is not in the way of shell extraction. All "no doll's head" Parker pigeon guns are extractor guns for the reason explained by Dave Suponski.
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Daryl, please explain "my gun" and "page 67". Do you own one of the guns previously owned by a famous shooter? Which shooter, which gun?
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Bill, see post #17 on this thread. Click on Drew's link on post #28 and scroll down to page 67 where WR Crosby is discussed.
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I guess I don't understand why speed of loading is even a consideration in shooting either trap or live birds. Can someone explain this to me?
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More likely a plantation Quail gun. Carried empty in the saddle scabbard and only loaded when one dismounts and walks in for the flush.
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Such guns are not common but there are a good number of them. "Plantation Quail Gun" as with "Live Bird Gun" can be used to ascribe a specific purpose for which a Parker was ordered but we have seen otherwise in the 'live bird gun' category and the same holds true for a 'plantation quail gun'. I know of a certain CHE 20 gauge with a straight grip and 30" Damascus barrels that was ordered with "no safety" and was shipped to Canada. I own a GHE 16 0-frame with 28" Damascus barrels that had the safety removed, obviously by an early owner, the tang filed and a rectangular cap of gold or brass with the gentleman's initial in Olde English Script soldered in place there.

In such cases, I think the owner was just sick and tired of missing shots because he forgot to flick the safety off. He was likely a gentleman who hunted over dogs and only loaded his gun when he was about to walk in on the point with gun at the ready and muzzles up. Not necessarily on a romantic plantation quail hunt but, as well, in the North Woods for ruffed grouse, woodcock, or any of the fowls of the stubble fields.
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