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Unread 08-20-2014, 09:41 AM   #1
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I have also seen early steel barrels, but only on three occasions. I have allways agreed with the account in the book. In refinishing they respond similar to Remington decarborized Steel. Very soft material.

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i have 2 of these old guns marked plain steel one of these old guns is in fair shape i would say the barrels were blued..a dark blue almost black...charlie
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Brad here are photos I took this morning, not very good but you can see the unusual markings on the barrel flats along with the order number, Gary
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same markings on the ones I have encountered. The color was dark black with a satin patina. It would be interesting to know the exact composition of the steel and how they were made. I assume they were rolled the same way that Remington did it.

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CHARLIE, Do your barrels look like these? and do they have the same markings? Gary
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yes they are marked plain steel and the same color of blue or black as pictured..will have to get the guns out of tomb after awhile and see if they are same markings...charlie
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The new Purdey Damascus doubles are in Black and White as I saw in heir shop in June while in London.
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"Decarbonized Steel" or "Bessemer process homogenous wrought iron" was sourced by Parker Bros. from Remington Arms.



Pages 503 & 504 of "The Parker Story" state that Parker changed the name to "Plain Steel" as Remington was using the name "Decarbonized" on their newly introduced Model 1873 & 1875/1876 Hammer Lifter doubles. 889 guns were made with Decarbonized Steel barrels.

1875 12g 0 Grade courtesy of Wally Shayer. 358 guns were made with "Plain Steel."



From "Fire-Arms Manufacture 1880 U.S. Department of Interior, Census Office"
The earliest use of decarbonized steel or gun-barrels is generally credited to the Remingtons, who made steel barrels for North & Savage, of Middletown, Connecticut, and for the Ames Manufacturing company, of Chicopee, Massachusetts, as early as 1846. It is also stated that some time about 1848 Thomas Warner, a the Whitneyville works, incurred so much loss in the skelp-welding of iron barrels that he voluntarily substituted steel drilled barrels in his contract, making them of decarbonized steel, which was believed by him to be a novel expedient. The use of soft cast-steel was begun at Harper's Ferry about 1849. After 1873, all small-arms barrels turned out at the national armory at Springfield were made of decarbonized steel(a barrel of which will endure twice as heavy a charge as a wrought-iron barrel), Bessemer steel being used until 1878, and afterward Siemens-Martin steel.
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Drew, Parker Bros did use the barrel legend of "Decarbonized Steel". Was this with the permission of Remington?
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Yes Dave, until Remington objected. Details should be in TPS.

1872 "Decarbonized Steel"



1874 "Plain Steel"

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