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Unread 07-26-2014, 11:31 AM   #1
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The first time I've seen something like the Damascus and Twist warnings appear on shotgun shell boxes was the early 12-gauge 3-inch Super-X loads from about 1925 or 1926 --



No mention on this 2 9/16 inch 16-gauge Super-X box of about the same vintage --









The one-piece shell boxes phased in in the 1933-35 time frame, and I've never seen one of those without Damascus and Twist warnings.
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Unread 07-27-2014, 12:45 PM   #2
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How do I feel about Damascus bbls?
I think Fabbri should offer Damascus as an option on their higher grade guns.
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I just had to bring this one back to the top in case anyone is reading that is in a similar situation to me 2 years ago(was it only 2 years ago....). I am currently in the process of buying my 4th Damascus parker. I have come a long long way from when I first posted this question.
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Re: the shell box warning

A.P. Curtis published the second of a two part article entitled “Advantages of Short Shotgun Chambers” in the March 1938 American Rifleman (Courtesy of Larry Brown) which dates the warning.
SAAMI, assembled in serious conference on March 26, 1937, passed the following resolution: “That an appropriate warning label be placed on all boxes containing smokeless powder shells, cautioning the consumer against using them in short chambered guns and also in guns with Damascus barrels and guns not in first-class condition.”

More here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...hIiY62Hx4/edit

and "Damascus Mythology & Reality" in the recent Summer issue of Double Gun Journal. The Fall and Winter issues will contain a 2 part Failure Analysis and Metallurgical Study of a damascus barrel burst, which will refute pattern welded barrel...confusion.

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And the Beat Goes On.....





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I had never noticed that warning before Dean. Checked my most recent boxes and sure enough its on there...
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Its all about liability. Things would sooo much better if lawyers were never invented....

Sorry George....




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Explanation:
I'm sure many of you are all too familiar with these two words:

"Liability"

"Lawyer"

Please notice that I have not included the words "reality" or "truth."
Enough said?
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And a bleeding heart liberal is all about gun control until he needs one.
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Oops... Apologies to John too.

It it surprising how many antis own or carry a gun.





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