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Unread 07-17-2014, 05:58 PM   #1
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Destry,

No im not shooting steel through any Parkers just RST. I wasnt understanding what you were using it for. My bad.
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A factory 3 inch chamber gun of that era would have been designed for the 1 3/8 loading, so that theory doesn't really hold up. I'm guessing it was probably shells loaded by the Bismuth Cartridge Company which weren't the greatest.

I have 10 gauge shells from them that are literally loaded so hot they'll make even a factory Ithaca Magnum 10 gauge double jump open after every shot. I had a batch of 12 gauge one time that every half dozen shells there would be a gross case failure. I literally cut the shells up and sold the shot to a friend rather than pass them along to some other poor soul.

That's why you never hear me bragging about their bismuth ammo, I'm actually glad it's gone out of production. Rio on the other hand, is a good solid company that loads good solid ammo.

I've shot a lot of hand loaded bismuth with good results.


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I know a guy in California that regularly shoots steel through his Parker and has no issue doing it.

I wouldn't do it on a bet, but he's been doing it for over 15 years.
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Setter Man: I worked for Cabela's; & watched the Fiocchi 16 Gauge "Golden Pheasant" loads just sit there with no takers. I finally bought the flat of them for a big discount.
I too, love 16's......but there are so few of us, it's hard for big retailers to carry stock.
Destry is right on, as usual......I've been hearing of the demise of 16's for 50 years.
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My first quail hunt was with a 16. I fell in with a bad crowd!
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I cleaned the Alaska supplier out of every box of bismuth shotshell ammo he had, just for the shot and the buffer. I had to buy 80 boxes and some shot and shell sizes I have no use for such as 3-1/2" 10 & 12ga w/ BB shot, so I have a lot of ammo to either resell or sell the shot out of. I mostly wanted the #4 shot and have cut a lot of shells open to get it. I got it all for just about the cost of the shot if I had to order it. If I cut the hulls carefully to get the shot out I can leave enough plastic to load light target loads with the hulls and powder charge left in there.
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Lat year I purchased a c. 1889 10 Ga Model DH. Nice gun - sent the Damascus Barrels off to to Dale Edmonds. Came back beautiful. Dale said they were the "Nicest, most consistent" Parker Barrels he had seen in a while. I also purchased some of the Gold Inserts to shoot 12 Gauge Ammo thru it on the Skeet Field.

Question: I was wondering if anyone out there had Hunted using the inserts with either 12 Gauge 1-1/8oz., 1-1/4 and/or 1-5/8 oz. Bismuth and/or Nice Shot in 2-3/4" or
3" shells?

I'm concerned about chamber pressure. Based on felt recoil, it would seem there's a signifigant pressure drop shooting 12 Ga 1-1/8and 1-1/4 oz ammo thru a 10 Bore. Any thoughts?
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Yup, I would say 'significant' too.
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Many apologies. My mis-spellings are legendary.

The reason I asked the question is because last Duck Season I was unable to purchase nice shot from RST (They explained they had been waiting for months for a shipment to arrive). Well, I'm looking at this 12 Ga Rio Bismuth as an option. I've got appx $400.00 in Cabelas Dollars built up on my Credit Card and this looks like an option for spending it.

I'm not looking for someone to sa "Go ahead", I'm asking if anyone "has"....

I've got 38 & 40thds in each barrel 9" from the breach. The bores are untouched and perfect. The only problem is that some previous owner lopped off what I assume was 4" inches from the barrel making them 28" long - It has no choke whatsoever. Again, I'm just trying to be mindful of chamber pressure.

I read Sherman Bell's report to Gauge Mate covering pressure drops(On their website). Unfortunatley, the one Chamer Mate size he didn't test was the 10/12 Ga.
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Please don't misunderstand - I was agreeing with you and hadn't even noticed the spelling.

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