Stock Book Help

[edgarspencer]

By process of elimination, I don't believe the numbers are DAH, as guns of that period were almost always close to 3" and more. I also don't think it's loads, because they were usually 2 3/4 Dram Equivalent or greater.
I have to believe Dean is correct. I only have one 12 bore hammer gun, and it is a 1 frame, measuring 2 1/4" across the breach face. The column which shows, what I assume are gun weights, matches guns one would assume were heavier, i.e. 12 30" 12, 32" 10, 30 ", 10, 32". It would make sense that a 10 bore with 32" barrels, would be heavier, and logic would suggest they were on larger framed receivers.

[Autumn Daze]

I think I will save this discussion to my files. Right now I'm going to warm up a 2 1/4"gun at the skeet field......

[B. Dudley]

Huh, that has a lot of things written on it.

[Dean Romig]

Look in your Parker Gun Identification & Serialization books on Page 45 in the chart under "WIDTH", guns with frame size 1 and greater see column F, "width across bolsters".

[Bill Murphy]

Dean has it. It is the frame size. Look at the weights of those guns. The 12 gauge guns are very heavy, indicating maybe a #3 frame, which is a 2 1/2 in Parker shop language. Chuck, what does Dean win? By the way, for those of you that don't own a Serialization Book, the same information is on page 527 of The Parker Story. Good work, Dean. I spent five days in those books and couldn't figure it out.

[wayne goerres]

wouldn't be a DAC amount

[Dean Romig]

That's what I thought until I found the chart in the ID & Ser book. Now I'm convinced it is the width of the bolsters according to the chart and the other specs on the guns.

[paul stafford jr]

it may be the length of choke

[paul stafford jr]

it may be why we see so many 30 in. barrels cut down to 28 in , if you cut off 2 in. you go from full to impv. cyl. ,just a guess.

[B. Dudley]

Chuck,

There is info in the stock books about Drams of Shot unsed in patterning.
Please refer to page 866 of TPS. It shows a photo of a near full stock book page from 1928. unfourtunately the top neader columns are not in the photo, but it does go all the way to the side. It shows a column with a date in it even ferther than the one you mention. But, it shows the same fractional number after patterning info. In this case, mostly 2-1/2 and 3. But, on this page all of the letters do have "dr." or drs. written after it.

The couple other examples of stock book pages in TPS are photocopies, just like the ones you use, which cut off those last columns. Page 866 is the only actual Photo of a full page in TPS.

Also,

See this attached photo of a stock book from 1913. I took this photo while I was at Remington. It is the one stock book that is on display in their museum. This shows the column headers. The column that you are referring to is labeled "Remarks" in this book. And they same info we speal of is listed here as well. With "Drs" after it. And it looks like they note that 7/8 oz of shot was used in most cases (in a few going as high as 1-1/4 oz) right before the drams of powder.

Parker Trip 142.jpg

The 1928 example in TPS also shows the oz. of shot and drams. And also those dates. One above that info and then another date with a large "X". Looks like there was a variation in header titles from 1913 to 1928.