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Unread 01-18-2014, 11:39 AM   #1
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But based on the number of likes received by the post that suggests a person who paid market value for a gun has a lesser collection than someone who found a way to 'right price own' the gun.....I can see I am too charitable in my way of thinking.
I'm not seeing anyone say anything of the sort. I was certainly not trying to offend or insult anyone with my first comments. As the saying goes, there is more than one way to skin a cat.

The "widow" analogy is common, and understood by most. If you see the same gun in a gun store, placed there mis-marked by a so-called expert in his trade, then you pay the man and walk out whistling Dixie. At least, I do. I wonder if the gunsmith had also tried to buy this particular gun, but didn't have enough money to work up much of an offer. Thus the low appraisal. Or was his appraisal an honest mistake?
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Unread 01-18-2014, 11:55 AM   #2
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IMHO if someone is selling a gun it is their responsibility to accurately determine the value. If the seller decided the grade 3 8ga in question was worth 1300 dollars and the buyer realized it was worth more than its a fair deal. The fault is with the seller NOT the buyer.

On the other hand if the buyer was asked to determine the value of the gun for resale and he being a knowledgeable Parker, Winchester, Fox ect person and said the gun was worth $1300 knowing full well it's value was much more than that just to get a deal than he is wrong both ethically and moraley.
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IMHO if someone is selling a gun it is their responsibility to accurately determine the value. If the seller decided the grade 3 8ga in question was worth 1300 dollars and the buyer realized it was worth more than its a fair deal. The fault is with the seller NOT the buyer.

On the other hand if the buyer was asked to determine the value of the gun for resale and he being a knowledgeable Parker, Winchester, Fox ect person and said the gun was worth $1300 knowing full well it's value was much more than that just to get a deal than he is wrong both ethically and moraley.
The seller didn't sell his gun for too little money, he just sold it LATE!
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tom armbrust use to load 8 ga shells may still do...but reloading your self is the way to go..precision reloading and ballistic reloading have all the hulls and wads and so on to load and roll crimp your shells...you can use a old lee 10 ga hand loading tools to deprime and punch the new primer in with and push the wads in with..you can make a tool out of a old set of pliars to make something to resize new indusrial hulls to fit the 8 ga shotgun..in other words about anything can be used to load up the hulls for the 8 ga once you buy them and they are not bad in price 50 cents each at the most..plenty of us fellows have reloading info to share if need be...charlie
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Gentlemen,

Let us keep this thread about our member obtaining a highly desired Parker 8 gauge.

Let us NOT digress into someone took advantage of the poor widower gun shop owner!

No widows were put on the poor farm over this purchase!

PS: If one gets a fantastic deal on a Parker then treat that like your salary. Keep it private or someone will get jealous...

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Gentlemen,

Let us keep this thread about our member obtaining a highly desired Parker 8 gauge.

Let us NOT digress into someone took advantage of the poor widower gun shop owner!

No widows were put on the poor farm over this purchase!

PS: If one gets a fantastic deal on a Parker then treat that like your salary. Keep it private or someone will get jealous...

Have a wonderful day!
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Gentlemen,

As I stated on page 5 of this thread, we are done discussing if anyone got ripped off concerning this 8 gauge.

Because of this I had to delete a couple posts today. Sorry guys but that stuff causes an otherwise good thread to go downhill in a hurry!

If you want to discuss ethics you are welcome to start a new thread in the Members Only Off Topic sub-forum.

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Forget that business about cheating widows as Mark suggests. I bought my first eight gauge Parker from a Griffin and Howe employee, an experienced trader in antique guns, for $470.00 after it sat on his gun show table for three days. At the same show at another time, I bought a Lindner 16 gauge hammer gun, the only one I have ever seen or heard of, for $700.00, from an experienced dealer in antique guns. If you don't buy it, someone else will, and they will flip it and you will add it to your collection. I would rather see such guns added to collections rather than being "flipped".
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How about those pics????
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I second that!
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The condition of the gun may have affected the price.
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