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GHE WITH VULCAN BARRELS
Unread 08-09-2013, 02:42 PM   #1
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just took in a nice 12 gauge, late Remington GHE, with 30" Vulcan steel barrels. serial # is 236xxx. everything looks kosher. is this a Remington clean up gun with VH barrels? have heard there are such things, but have never seen another. have you?
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236XXX was made in Meriden by Parker Bros. employees under Remington ownership IF the serial number falls after 236241, before that ser. no. Parker Bros was in control.

Parker Special Steel was normally roll-stamped on the rib for grade 2 guns. A later replacement set of barrels is a possible explanation. Vulcan Steel barrels would have been a less expensive option for replacement barrels... a research letter may or may not answer the question.

Incidentally, 236XXX isn't "late Remington" but rather, late Parker Bros. or early Remington.
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dean: thanks for quick response. full serial number is 236885, which makes it a Remington gun, plus parker is engraved on the bottom of the receiver.

maybe a letter is in order? does seem odd that a gun this late would need new barrels?
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Ed, the gun would have a Rem code on the flats if factory re-barreled.

They are likely remainder barrels installed as new during early Rem production.
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plus, the receiver bird engravings are not typical gh. I will take some pitchers...
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For comparison, here is GHE 236199, clearly a very late Parker Bros. gun but with engraving normally attributed to Remington Parker grade 2 guns. This was produced, according to the serial number, in the last year of Parker Bros. ownership..... or maybe it was started by Parker Bros. but completed by Remington.... who knows...

Notice it doesn't say Parker Bros. or Parker anywhere on the frame at all... leading me to believe it was finished by Remington.

I refer to it as a transition gun.

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These guns are in the realm of stock book entries. Barrel steel is one of the columns in the stock book. Get a letter.
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There are about 500 reasons the gun could have needed new barrels.
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I have 2 VHE's, 235968 & 235972, neither of which has Parker anywhere on the frame, and if I'm not mistaken they were Meriden guns. You may correct me if I'm wrong.
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Daryl,

I'm going to offer the guess that because there is no Parker anywhere on the frames, they were soft-fitted in Meriden when Parker Bros. owned the gun works and they were held in inventory but they were final fitted and finished after Remington owned the gun works.

The work would have been done by former Parker Bros. employees and contractors but Remington was not authorized to use the Parker Bros. logo and they probably hadn't decided how to mark the guns yet.

That's my guess...
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