20ga DHE Damascus 1891 - Page 2

Ed Blake · 05-28-2013, 03:30 PM

1891 D-grade 20 on an O-frame? How many were made prior to that one?

Philip Brown · 05-28-2013, 03:51 PM

Well everyone, I am a little embarrassed as it now appears that this is a 16 gauge gun. A 20 Ga. snap cap is swallowed by the chamber. I have also looked at the bore and do see what I would call a fair amount of pitting even though the bore is nice and shiney. Pictures are attached but as my photo equipment is not designed to take such a picture the pitting that I see is hard to capture. Does anyone have some sample pictures of pitting that I can use of comparison?

Not sure that I would want to shoot this due to it's age. I may be interested in selling it and if I keep it I may want to insure it. Can anyone provide me with a ballpark value?

Thanks.

edgarspencer · 05-28-2013, 04:38 PM

I didn't want to say anything because I've seen plenty of errors in the book, but it is listed as a 16.

Bill Murphy · 05-28-2013, 07:39 PM

A 16 with the pits that we can see and the condition of the gun in general, it is still a $1000 to $2000 gun.

edgarspencer · 05-28-2013, 07:51 PM

Button up your shirt bill. Your heart is about to fall on the floor.

Paul Stafford III · 05-28-2013, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

A 16 with the pits that we can see and the condition of the gun in general, it is still a $1000 to $2000 gun.

I'm not sure if that is a very close estimate after seeing a handful of pictures. It's worth more IMHO without having it in hand. I would have a Parker skilled gunsmith such as Delgrego, Bachelder, or Turnbull take a look at it if you have questions. Either way a great gun.

C.O.B. · 05-29-2013, 09:55 AM

100 years in the same family now he might want to sell it

so he's trolling for value.

Just an FYI you have to be a PGCA member to sell guns on this site.

Bill Murphy · 05-29-2013, 10:07 AM

Phillip, not only are we not using the 1994 Blue Book, or any Blue Book, the gun has morphed from a 20 gauge with good bores to a 16 with bad bores. However, only a close inspection will tell whether the bores can be cleaned up.

Philip Brown · 05-29-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Anderson

100 years in the same family now he might want to sell it

so he's trolling for value.

Just an FYI you have to be a PGCA member to sell guns on this site.

So sorry that I have shocked you Richard. I didn't realize that people on this forum were so critical. I am not a collector, I'm a shooter, but would never consider shooting this particular firearm. My reference to the "100 years in the family" was only to provide information regarding provenance. If I owned the Colt Paterson that my Great Great Grandfather carried as a Texas Ranger or any of the weapons that my Great Grandfather carried onto the Civil War Battlegrounds, be assured that they would be my most cherished possessions. The Parker is a beautiful gun and would look very nice on someones wall. If this gun has value to someone else why should I not sell it? FYI, if I do sell it, I will not do so on the PGCA site. Furthermore, I was unaware that "trolling for value" was not allowed on the site.

Opening Day · 05-29-2013, 10:42 AM

"Furthermore, I was unaware that "trolling for value" was not allowed on the site. "

Well at least he admitted to "trolling" gotta give him credit for that Rich..

Wonder how many "PM's" he has gotten.