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Unread 07-08-2026, 01:10 PM   #1
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Default Parker BHE barrel and water table original?

I'm seriously considering a BHE but have some questions regarding the gun. First, after looking at dozens of guns on Guns International and Gun Broker as well as a couple of hours on our Forum, every BH I've seen has an engraved band where the barrel meets the action. This gun does not have the engraved band. Also, there is a cut on the rib about two inches in front of the doll's head. Lastly, the water table is engine turned and I don't know if that is an option from the factory or if it was done later. The gun appears to be a legitimate BHE and the price is not unreasonable, but I worry that there may be some issues as to the originality which could affect the value. I have several Parkers from Trojan, VH, VHE, PHE, GHE and SC and am hoping to add a true high grade to the collection but would appreciate some guidance because even though the price seems reasonable, its still a lot of money.
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What is the serial number? What markings are on the water table?
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Sounds like anything but an original Parker BH.
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Sounds like anything but an original Parker BH.
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Sorry, but you have to provide pictures to get a good opinion of what you are describing.
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If the “cut on the rib” is something that you can catch your thumbnail on and it’s quite visible I would suggest at the minimum that the barrels have been worked on and poorly refinished… that or possibly replacement barrels.

What’s the serial number?
How about a pic of the markings on the barrel flats.





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The serial number is 152347. It appears that it was re-barreled with a Titanic steel D grade barrel, rather than an Acme Steel barrel. The same serial number is on the barrel but there is a 3 on the barrel flat. The asking price was $9K but I brought these issues to their attention and it is now priced at 5K. Is it possible that the barrels were originally Damascus and it was re-barreled with a Grade 3 barrel, or was it more likely cobbed together? Is it worth the asking price in your opinion? I haven't figured out how to send pics yet but am working on it.
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NIB. Those should have been fluid steel barrels (Acme) with that serial #, unless otherwise requested. Do all the serial numbers match?
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Also, if the seller dropped from $9K to $5k after issues were brought ta light, it tells you how much they have into it and can still make $$$$$. They DO NOT know what they are selling.
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Yes all serial numbers are the same. I have given up trying to send pics as the website keeps telling me the attachments are invalid. Maybe someone can direct to me to the "attach pictures for dummies" area of the website. There is not a gap on the rib but it was obviously cut. BTW, the barrels "overload proved parker bros" stamps on the barrels. I always believed that this indicated much later date of manufacture than the 1910 manufacture date for this serial number. the receiver has 3 patent dates Jan 18 Aug 16 1887, May 7 Oct 8 1889 and Aug 15 1905. <BH>,152347 and a 5 on the opposite watertable. It is an ejector gun.
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