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Unread 12-07-2009, 07:31 AM   #1
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I grew up hunting with my dad, a 'few' years ago...smiles.
Is duck season I look forward to the end of, because the marsh I enjoy so much is then 'abandoned' by the owners and is then left for me to enjoy again. As the owners only pay attention to it during duck season.
The only game birds here to hunt are doves. I do not recall hearing of grouse hunting here, nor woodcock. My dad has spoken of hunting pheasant, and were a few around when I was little. I have not seen any here til the last few years. As the fence rows being gone, hawks and eagles have taken care of them. The hawk and eagle population here has increased tremendously the last few years. The rabbits have almost disappeared in my yard....good for my garden...but also good for the polecat population!!
I have dined on a variety of game. Duck(many different kinds....teal is best....), muskrats, turtle, snake, froglegs, goose, pheasant and dove. Perch, catfish, bullhead(spring only are delicious), panfish, smokedcarp(excellent if smoked right) and walleye(their cheeks are tatiest). No grouse or woodcock.
The last deer I got was with my car. I stood for about 20 minutes til
someone stopped. The gentleman that did so advised me he felt my car was drivable, I told him I agreed. That I only needed help putting the little button buck in my trunk. I do believe he was a bit shocked. smiles. The joke at work then was that I eat road kill. I then had a retirement party at my house for one of my fellow nurses. The dish I made was complimented many times. After the meal was finished I thanked them all for the compliments on my 'roadkill' dish. (a few were a bit upset....smiles)
Wow, I got a bit windy this morning.
Hope you do well with your grouse Mr. Yarian. And very much enjoy the crisp outdoors!!!
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Venison and "Road Kills"
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Lee- I live on the Cusp of MI counties where we have a very high vehicle-deer accident record. Although I didn't get a buck in the scope of my 30-06 rifle this past season, I have cooked many a venison roast- Firstly, where the deceased deer has been feeding makes a huge difference, as well as the hanging and aging of the carcass in a cooler--just as with game birds, waterfowl and even ground game such as rabbits and squirrels, the longer the meat can age in a cool locker, the better-

For road kills, where the trauma to the carcass can be somewhat different than a bullet or arrow "fatality" , the sooner you can dis-joint the carcass and salvage with a boning knife the usable cuts, the better- then wrap in cheesecloth and hang over a pan and every day saturate the entire section with apple cider (acedic acid)--soak in cold lightly salted water overnight when you want to remove the cheese cloth "gauze" and then simmer to a slow boil (in the same manner in which you "freshen" a salted corned beef brisket in preparation for a St. Patty's Day corned beef and cabbage feast-

Now for the best way to cook a venison haunch or roast-Marinade for at least 36 hours with the entire piece of venison emersed- I use a cider vinegar base, adding sliced onion, salt, pepper corns, brown sugar and cloves- Reserve the liquid, strain through a colander to remove the bits of clove, etc-

Pat the roast completely dry, then lighly dust with peppered flour until coated, brown in a cast iron skillet in olive oil at proper temperature until the entire surfaces are brown on all sides- then place in a coverable roasting pan ( a proper seal to retain juices and keep meat moist is essential) pour in the reserved liquid enhanced with Cavaldos if you like) and roast slowly in a preheated 350 degree oven for four hours-- Removed at let stand on carving tray, keep the reserved liquid baste for a pour-over gravy, BUT instead or adding flour or cornstarch to thicked, add finely crushed gingersnaps, stir until proper texture is developed and pour over the roast prior to slicing- and remember, all wild game is best when carved across the grain of the meat-

I like red skinned potatoes with butered parsley or German potato pancakes, red cabbage, served either cold as a side dish, or heated, Kimmel bread and a good dark beer- Leinie or Yeungling-- You might like a nice Merlot, ladies choice- Enjoy!!

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Wow....and you cook too?
Am off to see my old friend Jack Tibbels...another man who is very much a gentleman. He owns a marina here on the western basin. He has scuba dived lake erie for MANY years, as did his dad. He is trying to get walleye season changed here, and I have volunteered to help him. And as I do will hear many stories about the 'old' days on lake Erie. Another man I could sit and listen to forever.....
Then am off to magee marsh, they have a historical room there from Cedar Point Shooting Club....no pics tho. Am going to meet with curator. They are inquisitive there of an island discussed in some historical documents that sat off the mouth of the Toussaint river....I am looking into for them.
Have a great day Mr. Moran!!! Blessings, Lee
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Mr. Morin - that "road kill" recipe is as close to my Grandmother Ziebart's saurbraten recipe as I've ever seen complete with gingersnap gravy. My grandparents ran a butcher shop and grocery store in St. Joe. All along I thought that was beef.....
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Mr. Morin - that "road kill" recipe is as close to my Grandmother Ziebart's saurbraten recipe as I've ever seen complete with gingersnap gravy. My grandparents ran a butcher shop and grocery store in St. Joe. All along I thought that was beef.....
-- St. Joe- MI-? You can try to cut corners, as some chefs have and use ginger powder and cornstarch- BUT- the real way to make it properly is the crushed gingersnaps--accept no substitutes--

I have also prepared some venison chops as follows- aging helps and a careful cut and prep- I keep the chop bones intact, as the old saying of "nearer to the bone, sweeter the meat" is a truism in my kitchen--I use a tenderizing mallet and break up the tissue somewhat, then pat dry, dust with peppered flour and again, sear until both sides are brown in the hot olive oil--set the heated chops aside on a platter, add brown sugar gradually to the pan drippings over medium heat until you get a fluid "glaze" that will just slide off a knife-pour off into a bowl, but leave a film on the heated pan, add a can of Hunt's chopped tomatoes and use a pastry brush to spread the glaze over the chop bones, to "seal" in the flavor, put the chops on the bed of heated tomatoes, drizzle on the remaining glaze thinned a bit with brandy or Calvados- place lid on to seal, and simmer on low heat for about 2.5 hours- depending on size of pan, number of chops- DO NOT remove lid until time is up- serve on a bed of wild rice with mushrooms, a side salad with hard rolls, and beverage(s) of your choice-I like apple Jack- recipe for that later, but in a pinch, you can add Calvados to apple cider and come close-

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Yes Sir - St. Joseph Michigan where all my remaining aunts and uncles still reside. Thanks for all these recipes!
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