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Unread 02-16-2022, 08:47 AM   #41
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What a surprise that is. I guess my opinion that it is a Del Grego gun was correct. My friend, Shelly's guns appear out of nowhere. Jim Hall will remember when what seemed like dozens of Shelly's guns were on display for sale at the NRA collectors show many years ago. That was the right time to pick up an underpriced Gitman gun. In all the years I was around Shelly Gitman, he never shot one of his Del Grego guns. He did not hunt, and he only shot proper clay target competition guns when he shot clays. He had gorgeous graded Superposed Brownings and other heavy competition guns, not Parkers.
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Why wouldn’t he shoot Parkers? I don’t have any of his guns but I have one of his shirts.
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Upgraded and "return to mint" Parkers were his life's project. It had nothing to do with shooting. He shot the guns designed in modern times for the game at hand. He was an International trapshooter. It was a religion for him. He built a fifteen trap International bunker for his use and the use of his friends. He participated in the Macabee games in Europe in the International Trap events. Some of his Jewish friends and shooting companions were also shooting friends of mine. He was personal friends with Larry Del Grego Sr. Larry not only built his guns, but he assisted in the procurement of the guns. One day in Tennessee, at an invitational shoot, at lunch in a horse barn, Shelly shared with Kevin McCormack and me, the story and history of the Invincibles. I was astounded that he finally let it all out. It was just Shelly, Kevin, and me. Shelly mentioned names that I knew, people that lived just a few miles from me, were in gun clubs that I had attended, that had owned the Invincibles. Shelly told us how he had become the owner of the Invincibles. It was a bit of information that has never been revealed to the Parker "importanati".
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Not to derail this thread but Shelly also had a DHE 20 in a Trap configuration that was done by Del Grego. 32" VR gun with double triggers. The owner provided me with some not so great cell phone pictures. This one and the subject gun of this thread together would make a nice pair.
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Looking at the initials SG on the oval and assuming those stand for Shelly Gitman my question is, did Shelly use a standard style for the engraving or did it vary from gun to gun?
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Looking at the initials SG on the oval and assuming those stand for Shelly Gitman my question is, did Shelly use a standard style for the engraving or did it vary from gun to gun?
Don't know Mike but the subject gun and this one is very similar. One would think that the guns Del Grego completed for him would have all had the same style.
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A photo of the forenend loop,on the bottom of the barrel would be helpful in determining if it was originally built with a beaver tail forend and can be really called a double trap gun. Gittman provenance aside, that beaver tail looks aftermarket.
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It has the correct checkering pattern for a DHE trap forend but the loop will tell the truth.
There is a picture on page 1 that shows a section of the underside with about 3+” of the rear rib section and there is no evidence of a reinforced loop… but we need to see that entire section including the loop.





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I have seen additional pictures of this gun that clearly show it does have the correct reinforced loop.
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