Early 28 Gauge Production

[Dean Romig]

I would be comfortable with the 275 number but only to the beginning of 1912. After that point we really have no idea how many 0-frame 28's were made up to the date in 1934 that Remington Arms bought the Parker Gun operation.

There are also a few two-gauge, two-barrel (20/28) guns that were most definitely built on the 0-frame.





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[James L. Martin]

Not counting 20/28 guns how many 0 frame 28ga guns have you seen that were built after say 1914. I myself have seen none.

[Dean Romig]

I haven’t been watching 0-frame/date of manufacture guns.





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[Bill Murphy]

I can say one thing that can't be disputed. Joel's question to Mr. Del Grego was misinterpreted, or the answer was misinterpreted. Del Grego's answer had nothing to do with the question that Joel says he asked. I just counted forty four 28" 28 gauge V grade guns just up to 145,000 serial number, about 1907. Obviously there are more than 14 or 17 total. Joel, look in the appendix of TPS to get some better information. You could have looked at earlier entries in the SB if you were interested in 28 gauges made earlier than your 1902 gun. The numbers are there. I would also recommend that James Martin also use the TPS appendix for more and more accurate information.

[Bill Murphy]

By the way, there is no use in copying or recopying the stock books. Commander Gunther already copied them and we have the copies. What has not been done is to transcribe all the serial numbers in the stock books into the serialization book database. The information is there for Chuck to copy, anytime he gets a few minutes.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

The information is there for Chuck to copy, anytime he gets a few minutes.

If the President gets the federal minimum wage up to $15.00/Hr, Chuck can get a $15.00 raise.

[James L. Martin]

Bill ,I do look in TPS ,where are the 0 frame 28ga guns listed? That is what we were talking about.

[Pa SxS]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

If the President gets the federal minimum wage up to $15.00/Hr, Chuck can get a $15.00 raise.

Bless you Edgar!

[Pa SxS]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

By the way, there is no use in copying or recopying the stock books. Commander Gunther already copied them and we have the copies. What has not been done is to transcribe all the serial numbers in the stock books into the serialization book database. The information is there for Chuck to copy, anytime he gets a few minutes.

Not true Bill. There is information that couldn't be copied at the right hand side of the stock books due to the limitation of the width of the copy machine. I would love to photograph all of the stock books, if I could.

[JWH]

My 1902 VH 28ga with 28” barrels weighed 5 lbs 15oz from Parker if that helps.

I’ll have to follow up with Mr. Delgrego. He was very adamant about there being only 14 or 19 of this configuration made being as an 0 frame VH 28 gauge with 28”barrels.

When I questioned it being such a low number, he mentioned their large collection of Parker factory books they have and that he and his grandfather used to go back and forth on the exact number of this configuration being 14 or 19. Either way, it’s not a big deal but will be interesting to talk to him more about it and try to get some clarity.

It’s just a field grade gun in an early configuration but it is interesting to hear that Parker “potentially” ……..didn’t make a lot in this specific spec.



On another note this 1904 VH 28 gauge on a 0 frame with 26” barrels sold for 13.6k including buyers premium this past December.

https://www.rockislandauction.com/de...barrel-shotgun