Has the market for average Parkers bottomed???

[JLoew]

Given my work, both in private sales and with the consulting I do with Morphy's I can confidently say that I handle as many or more Parker shotguns in a given year than anyone else in the country. Between buying, selling, appraising, and studying, I am in the market literally 365 days a year and many times 24 hours a day. Just like any market, it changes from minute to minute, day to day.

The guns that are the softest today are the very ordinary and mundane guns. Why would anyone stretch for a VH 12ga with 30" barrels that has less than 50% condition? Literally there are hundreds and hundreds of them for sale at this very moment all throughout the country. Just like there are literally tens of thousands of beef cattle for sale all around the country today. These guns, just like the cows, bring a certain price and that is it. There is no upward momentum for them. There never has been- and why should there be? There is plenty of supply that is met with very little demand.

The greatest change I see in the market today is NOT that there is a lack of new buyers, however, there is a lack of uneducated buyers who run around buying like chickens with their heads cut off. Today's savvy buyers are hiring people (like me) to help them buy and to vet things to make sure they are buying at a reasonable value for money. In 2019 I made several new clients who have given me their wish lists and I help them find what they are looking for. If possible, I source their wish lists and stand behind what I am selling them, with my reputation and checkbook on the line to back it up.

In the days before the internet, the visible supply was much lower than it is today so there was a perceived scarcity for certain things. With the internet, you are able to see a much broader swath of the available supply, and thus common guns that were regionally rare are not perceived as rare anymore (think BHE grade 12 bore guns in rural mid-west). There are probably 6-10 BHE 12ga for sale right now on the net as where 20 years ago a guy could go to 6 gun shows a year and only see 1.

In conversations with my friend Steve Barnett, we both commented how 2019 was the very best year we had ever had in the gun business. Selling the more rare and collectible guns is as good now as it has ever been. Selling pedestrian guns, for which there was never much demand, is not hard today, its simply a matter of finding the right price at which it will sell. The run of the mill VH 12ga gun isnt going to bring what it brought 6 months or 6 years ago, and neither is your Amazon stock or your feeder cattle.

In the May 2020 Morphy Auction we will have Carl Balderson's estate collection of fine Parker shotguns. Carl collected a number of wonderful small bore guns, many with rare features. Many of these guns are in fine original condition. It is certainly going to be the greatest offering of fine American Sporting Shotguns in the last 5-10+ years. I am completely confident that the guns will be met with plenty of demand given their quality, condition, and configuration.

The very best guns are still selling with ease, and so are the mundane guns. The simple fact of the matter is that on the mundane guns, the only reason to compel a buyer is through a low price. The best guns speak for themselves and their realized prices continue to do the same.

[Phil Yearout]

There are fewer and fewer of us old f*rts, and most of the "new" hunters (at least the ones I see) seem to be into "faster, higher, farther"; that could explain a down market for good, shootable guns.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Phil Yearout

There are fewer and fewer of us old f*rts, and most of the "new" hunters (at least the ones I see) seem to be into "faster, higher, farther"; that could explain a down market for good, shootable guns.

And that’s where Josh’s “uneducated buyer” enters the picture.


I will say however, we don’t ‘need’ Parkers while we do need beef cattle.





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[Phil Yearout]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

And that’s where Josh’s “uneducated buyer” enters the picture.....

But if uneducated buyers are running around buying up everything they can find, that should drive the price up, not down, no?

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Phil Yearout

There are fewer and fewer of us old f*rts, and most of the "new" hunters (at least the ones I see) seem to be into "faster, higher, farther"; that could explain a down market for good, shootable guns.

I'm very new to Parkers (28g repro). Thank God there are people left who appreciate aesthetics and grace. I think this can be taught to some extent so its' upon each of us to show someone else what a beautiful gun feels like. We'll have to face the fact that maybe we're weirdo's who prefer to carry Leica's, fish with bamboo and shoot very old expensive guns. I'm not an old fart (at least yet...) but I'm looking forward to another (real) Parker someday. Don't we see the same thing with cars? Some have soul, some just don't. Usually the ones without soul are the new ones. To some, a car is a tool. Same with a gun. Life is short, do what makes your heart smile.

[Kensal Rise]

Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco

...Don't we see the same thing with cars? Some have soul, some just don't. Usually the ones without soul are the new ones. To some, a car is a tool. Same with a gun. Life is short, do what makes your heart smile.

You're right about cars and "soul." But sorry. NOTHING in today's automotive market has any soul. Orange juice colour or not.

[Victor Wasylyna]

Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco

We'll have to face the fact that maybe we're weirdo's who prefer to carry Leica's, fish with bamboo and shoot very old expensive guns.

Andy:

You are going to fit right in here at the PGCA.

-Victor

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Victor Wasylyna

Andy:

You are going to fit right in here at the PGCA.

-Victor

That's what I'm afraid of...

[John Davis]

I have found that when I'm buying, it's a seller's market. And when I'm selling, it's a buyer's market. Which of course goes hand in hand with my business philosophy of "Buy high and Sell low".

[BRDHNTR]

I'd like to find an Amazon stock for one of my Parkers.....