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Unread 01-26-2010, 08:03 PM   #1
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We had to almost give away what we think was a factory two barrel set with Krieghoff barrels because the doll's head was so poorly fitted. I don't know if Krieghoff or Skeuse fitted them, I'm assuming Skeuse. Krieghoff had them white and unengraved and could have easily done a better job. I assume most of the 16-20 sets were much better.
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Actually Bill, according to the Shotgun Sports article by Sisley it was reported that the barrels were fit by Krieghoff.
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There are several variables in fitting either a set of Krieghoff barrels or the CSMC/Merkel barrels to a Reproduction. Certainly one is the expertise of the person fitting them and the care in which the barrels are machined and filed. Another important consideration is the height of the barrel breeches from the flats to the topmost level of the dolls head extension as compared to the standing breech of the frame from the water tables to the upper extremity of the recess in the frame where the doll's head sits.
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The lug, bolt plate and how they engage the guns bolt are important as well.... my gun won't lock up properly with the CSMC barrels. I've always wondered if they would work on a different 0-frame gun but have never tried it.
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You're right Dave but I'm not sure it would make any difference which Repro frame they are fitted to. Barrel sets will usually fit between one Repro to another - the greatest issue might be the position of the lever, there being only the difference of one or two thousandths of an inch involved in 1/2" in lever position.

Describe the problem you are having in lock up?
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I've complained about this problem a number of times on this board and I hate to do it again but these barrels make me so d*** angry I'll do it one last time. Photo below shows the gun when its closed (you can see the barrels are tight on the breech). The only way to get the lever over is to slam the gun shut or wiggle and giggle the lever till it moves over. I paid to have them fit to my gun and here's what i got. Seller does not respond to emails or phone calls.
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Greg, popular legend has it that 500 Repros were sent to Krieghoff for fitting, but there were more barrels that were not fitted at Krieghoff. I don't know what the total 16 gauge barrel production was, but barrels were offered by Skeuse for fitting here.
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My 16 Ga. set fits about the same as yours in the doll's head area. My lever comes over and the gun locks up alright but the beavertail forend falls off in my hand at about every third shot. Lou tells me "send it back, we'll make it right." I shouldn't complain because I have never given them that opportunity yet.
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He told me NOT to send it back... "it would wear in." Subsequent emails and phone calls have been ignored. I don't use it because I'm afraid it will damage my gun. Very very disappointing, especially when the tab was over 2 Grand.
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500 set of 16 ga barrels were made by Merkel for the Parker repros. Not all of them were used up before they quit making the guns. About 4-5 years ago I obtained 8 sets of the original 16 ga barrels that were off premises. The remainder were submerged in the flood that also destroyed the rest of the Parker repro parts. Actually they were obtained as salvage by the insurance company after they settled the loss. They were then destroyed and not resold, I was told, to avoid any potential liability on the ins. company.
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