3 day inspection/transfer

[Cold Spring]

Originally Posted by Phillip Carr

I would find another local FFL and have the gun rerouted to them. The seller would need to do the rerouting from his end. If the gun is still at the local hub this could happen very quickly I would think.

Methinks that’s easier said than done. The seller’s FFL already made the “disposition entry” in his Bound Book and there’s way to eradicate that and reenter a new receiving FFL. And since the gun was never physically returned to him he can’t date and enter it as a new “acquisition” and then enter a new “disposition”.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Frank Srebro

Methinks that’s easier said than done. The seller’s FFL already made the “disposition entry” in his Bound Book and there’s way to eradicate that and reenter a new receiving FFL. And since the gun was never physically returned to him he can’t date and enter it as a new “acquisition” and then a new “disposition”.

Frank , if said gun is coming from a private seller what Phil suggests will work . However the way we do it the said three day inspection doesn't start until the gun is signed for at the FFL who takes possesion . So theoretically its until guns delivered , now if I were the seller I'd be pissed about this not so much at the buyer but at the whole deal in general and of course if I'm the one that paid for the gun I'd be pissed as well . But in the present screwed up state of affairs in the world things like this aren't uncommon

[Cold Spring]

Originally Posted by CraigThompson

Frank , if said gun is coming from a private seller what Phil suggests will work . However the way we do it the said three day inspection doesn't start until the gun is signed for at the FFL who takes possesion . So theoretically its until guns delivered , now if I were the seller I'd be pissed about this not so much at the buyer but at the whole deal in general and of course if I'm the one that paid for the gun I'd be pissed as well . But in the present screwed up state of affairs in the world things like this aren't uncommon

Larry might want to call the BATFE to discuss this situation and the legalities of redirecting the shipment if the seller is a private gent and he shipped it himself, not through an 01 FFL.

[Andy]

I bought a gun on line once that the dealer gave a "A 3 day non firing inspection and $100 re-stocking fee." I thought it was worth the risk so did it. If returned you paid shipping and he returned all but $100.

[Phil C]

Oh well so much for that idea. I have rerouted packages in the past, but never a gun.

[B. Dudley]

Re-routing the shipment would likely be a perfectly logical and legal option IF the shipping FFL is the one who re-routes the shipment. They would be able to verify that the shipment was not delivered, verify the location to be re-routed to, and make it happen. The buyer would have no legal right or ability to do it.

[edgarspencer]

This is exactly why I have a C&R license. I rarely buy anything that has to go through an 01 FFL. The rare occasion when I do, I know for certain what I’m buying. A good seller is one who will answer as many questions necessary.

[6pt-Sika]

What I’ve said I stand by . You as a seller do not know what type people you are dealing with thru internet sales . It’s better to air on the side of caution . If I’m selling to someone that I know and “trust” I’d allow them to shoot the gun , but not some yahoo I have no history with . As a seller I’ll not take that much risk with the usual internet crowd . How many times has Morphy or Poulin or Rock Island allowed a person to take a gun apart before they won the auction or after they recieved the gun and then allow a return .How many times have the same auction houses allowed possible bidders to take a gun out and shoot it to see if they liked it before they bid or after they recieved and then the buyer wants to return it . Everybody’s got their own agenda but as far as I’m concerned 3 days starting the day your FFL recieved the gun , if you do the paperwork and take it home or shoot it at the dealers we’re done . Sounds like a good many of you want the seller to take all the risk .

[winplumber]

Originally Posted by CraigThompson

What I’ve said I stand by . You as a seller do not know what type people you are dealing with thru internet sales . It’s better to air on the side of caution . If I’m selling to someone that I know and “trust” I’d allow them to shoot the gun , but not some yahoo I have no history with . As a seller I’ll not take that much risk with the usual internet crowd . How many times has Morphy or Poulin or Rock Island allowed a person to take a gun apart before they won the auction or after they recieved the gun and then allow a return .How many times have the same auction houses allowed possible bidders to take a gun out and shoot it to see if they liked it before they bid or after they recieved and then the buyer wants to return it . Everybody’s got their own agenda but as far as I’m concerned 3 days starting the day your FFL recieved the gun , if you do the paperwork and take it home or shoot it at the dealers we’re done . Sounds like a good many of you want the seller to take all the risk .

Well I have slept on this I think now what I will do is when the gun gets to my FFL go the day he gets it and dont sign a FFL and dont shoot it or take it apart unless its a SXS because it had better been shipped taken down and dont take home and study the gun as mush as I can and come back the next two days and do the same and make up my mind on the Third day . I would be within your terms . Just wondering if you test drive a car before you buy it, Some of you guys here spend more on a gun then I have on a car LOL. I guess a mans word doesnt mean sh..! anymore BUT MINE DOES ! I have bought several guns from members here with no issues and had shooting rights and whatever I needed . My ffl dealer has a (5) FIVE return on used guns and you can shoot them too !

[Cold Spring]

Originally Posted by Steve Huffman

Well I have slept on this I think now what I will do is when the gun gets to my FFL go the day he gets it and dont sign a FFL and dont shoot it or take it apart unless its a SXS because it had better been shipped taken down and dont take home and study the gun as mush as I can and come back the next two days and do the same and make up my mind on the Third day . I would be within your terms . Just wondering if you test drive a car before you buy it, Some of you guys here spend more on a gun then I have on a car LOL. I guess a mans word doesnt mean sh..! anymore BUT MINE DOES ! I have bought several guns from members here with no issues and had shooting rights and whatever I needed . My ffl dealer has a (5) FIVE return on used guns and you can shoot them too !

That's signing a 4473, not a FFL. Also, the licensee must log the gun into his bound book on the day received. It's not like the gun sits there in limbo until the buyer shows up to accept or reject it. And if rejected the return shipping can get complicated. Often it's not as simple as just repacking, log out and send out the door.

Some acutely reserved buyers will also want to bring their atomic microscope to the FFL’s shop to check out the wood and metal, along with a DNA test kit to detect traces and confirm the gun actually went to DuBray, etc. as shown in the letter. Be sure to tell the DNA testing company you need results within the 3 day period if that was part of the deal.