.024 (24 THOUSANDTHS) DAMASCUS

[Austin W Hogan]

I have not loaded a pdf file before; this is an experiment. This excel file shows barrel dimensions of a gun we did not include in the analysis of barrel taper for Parker Pages. It is a pretty beat up and cut barrel gun; but it is the lightest lifter 12 I have seen.

The breadth of the barrel set and the diameter of a barrel vs distance from breech is tabulated; from this the void between barrels and the nominal barrel thicknes at that point are calculated.

These barrels look and feel paper thin; but they measure .040 at the muzzle.

Best, Austin

[Richard Flanders]

I have a 26" 5# 11oz Linder Daly 12ga fwt on the way here soon. I'll be interested in seeing how they made it that light. Hope it wasn't by honing the bbls to beer can thickness...

[John D.]

Originally Posted by Richard Flanders

I have a 26" 5# 11oz Linder Daly 12ga fwt on the way here soon. I'll be interested in seeing how they made it that light. Hope it's wasn't by honing the bbls to beer can thickness...

If it is like my Lindner Daly FWT - you'll be just fine. No beer can barrels - as I shoot it all the time and - and, as a huge PLUS - the barrel walls at their thinnest point are well above the thickness - as the subject of this thread..??

It also doesn't haven't any ports/pits in the bore I'll need to drill out?

But - what the hell do I know?

Enjoy your new Daly Featherweight! They are wonderful...

John

[charlie cleveland]

richard them 12s that light have got to kick like youve been hit with both back feet of a big mule...should be a pleasure to tote ...weighed my 20 ga today on my old scales it weighed 5 1/4 lbs.they could be off a couple ounces.got to get me some of those digital ones....

[Richard Flanders]

I think yours looks a just tad cleaner than the one I'm getting John. I am looking forward to trying it with lighter handloads on ruffies. Should be perfect. The workmanship on the Linders is exquisite. My normal wt Linder 12 has pretty stout bbls for a short and relatively light gun. Seems a touch more barrel heavy than most Parkers. I see your triggers are even bent correctly for a right hander... Nice gun... Could I by any chance 'borrow' it for a while??? Just a little while?? Not for long....

[John D.]

Originally Posted by Richard Flanders

I think yours looks a just tad cleaner... I see your triggers are even bent correctly for a right hander... Nice gun... Could I by any chance 'borrow' it for a while??? Just a little while?? Not for long....

Hi Richard!

You are more than welcome to borrow this little Daly any time..?? There is a hitch though?? You can only take delivery in person?? And yep - like all my guns, you are free to borrow them whenever..? For example - Scott has my little DH DAM, Pete has my AAHE vent rib, Dean has my DHE 20, Bob has my little VH 20, Scott has my Nikon D200, Danny has my.... Oh wait - sorry..??

As for the triggers - yep - they are articulated for a RH shooter. And if yours is like mine - it will feel like a wand in hand - and shoot even better..?? I'll post more from this little Daly - but I think the one you want to "borrow" is a little Diamond Quality Lindner Daly I have stashed away. I've never posted pictures, but - she is a beautiful little 12 GA. That's the one you want to "borrow", I think??

And yep - a wonderful little woodcock and grouse gun...

Please post some pics of your FWT when she comes home to you, OK??

Best to you!

John

[Richard Flanders]

Yeah! The Diamond grade! Yes! That's the one I really meant! Love to borrow it. I'll be right over.... leave a light on...

[Cold Spring]

Just to help establish a "benchmark" of sorts..... with objective data. Yesterday I measured a damascus Francotte of 1896 vintage. Gun is all-original with 18.4mm bores (.726/.727" as confirmed by my Galazan bore gauge). It's damascus is the chain pattern type, and the exterior barrel finish is original and in pretty good condition. Minimum walls are .031/.032" as measured 8-9" back from the muzzles. That's the thinnest measurement anywhere on the tubes. The walls were measured with a Galazan wall gauge - the heavier bench model with vertical posts to hold the barrel and the dial indicator.

This barrel set weighs 3 - 10.7. And the gun weighs 7 - 5. While I understand that a Francotte is not a Parker, the data reported here will give an idea of what another quality manufacturer put up on its guns.

This thread reminded me of the first damascus gun I purchased from a gent who seemed to know what he was talking about. It's a Syracuse Arms gun that supposedly had been "lightly honed" by a gunsmith sort I had heard of. I didn't have a wall gauge at the time, and a short bore gauge (since replaced) showed the tubes to have irregular I.D.'s. Whatever.... Then, months later when I sprung to buy a better/longer bore gauge, and also a wall gauge, I discovered there are multiple locations on the tubes where the walls are 16 to 22 thou thick. I suspect it was "honed" with emery cloth on the end of a rod, turned by a drill motor. The SAC gun now sits off-line in my safe, with a paint marker UNSAFE warning on her barrels, while I look for another barrel to fit to it. Lesson learned.

Since then the bore gauge travels with me whenever I think I might find a gun, and the wall gauge is always in the vehicle at the larger shows and shoots.

Frank

[charlie cleveland]

bill that little 10 reallyamazes me....must be some kinda fun to show and shoot this gun...im gladthat you have told the rest of us gun lovers about it....maybe somebody could do a thread on light tens....thanks charlie ps jack that is a lite set of barrels for a 12 ga...and amazing they look so thin but yet measure .040....i have a 20 ga set that weigh 2 lbs and look paper thin ..i measured them and they are still in safe shooting specs...

[Bill Murphy]

Charlie, I also have a steel barrel Lefever ten that weighs 7 pounds 8 ounces. It is some unusual gun. I have not measured the wall thickness because it is in unmolested condition and is as it came from the factory. Some day I will run the Manson gauge down the barrels. It has 28" barrels and is an F or G Grade as I remember. I have never carried this gun in the field, but it would be a pleasure to carry. It is also bored full and modified and will kill a cockbird at 50 yards without a problem.