A 10 gauge for Charlie

[J. A. EARLY]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

I would never hunt deer with dogs and buckshot. I know it was/is popular to do so in some parts of the country - and I don'y intend to offend anyone... and I don't even like drives anymore and only ever participated in two drives... very scary stuff sometimes goes on in a drive

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Dean,

In my county rifles were illegal for over sixty years due to an incident involving a local politician's/courthouse crew's wife nearly being shot. As one of the family members told me when we tried to get rifles legalized in the county back in the 90s "you'll never use a rifle in this county as long as I'm alive"(he's still alive). So buckshot was it. I kill most of my deer without dogs and with buckshot. Lose very few. So dogs and buckshot became the tradition (with a rifle in the pickup gun rack) for most hunters. Only last year did rifles become legal again, but we went through the slow progression from muzzle-loaders, to slugs, then to rifles without anyone being killed.

The opponents came out of the woodwork. One woman testified that rifles should not be legalized in the county because terrorists would come in and use them to overtake the nuclear power plant!

[charlie cleveland]

jerry them big guns will jump outa your hands sometime...really liked the video of the sst ....i bought 5 rouds of that ammo but aint shot nothing with it yet...even bought a box of 20 ga tss....charlie

[Dean Romig]

Thanks Jerry, I'm good with still-hunting, stalking, stand hunting, tree-stand hunting, ground blind hunting but I draw the line (for myself at least) at baiting and running dogs for deer. Again, that's just me.

IMO, and I have nothing to back up my opinion, Buckshot in the woods where there are other hunters - even those, and maybe especially those, in your own party - is more dangerous than a well-directed single bullet.





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[J. A. EARLY]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Thanks Jerry, I'm good with still-hunting, stalking, stand hunting, tree-stand hunting, ground blind hunting but I draw the line (for myself at least) at baiting and running dogs for deer. Again, that's just me.

IMO, and I have nothing to back up my opinion, Buckshot in the woods where there are other hunters - even those, and maybe especially those, in your own party - is more dangerous than a well-directed single bullet.

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Dean,

We tried to tell them that for sixty years. Even put in regulations rifles had to be cased to an elevated stand at least ten feet off the ground. Refused to listen. Then on the last day of deer season about five years ago a deer ran between two hunters and a single buckshot pellet to the head of one of the hunters put an end to a young life. I have had a guy shoot uphill at a running deer and put pellets in the tree above me, and the only reason he did not shoot the third shot was I yelled. And I was in a tree stand. He was on posted land so I thought I was alone on a windy day. He blamed me because he said he did not see my blaze orange on his way into the posted land (my back was to the tree).

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Jerry Harlow

Dean,

We tried to tell them that for sixty years. Even put in regulations rifles had to be cased to an elevated stand at least ten feet off the ground. Refused to listen. Then on the last day of deer season about five years ago a deer ran between two hunters and a single buckshot pellet to the head of one of the hunters put an end to a young life. I have had a guy shoot uphill at a running deer and put pellets in the tree above me, and the only reason he did not shoot the third shot was I yelled. And I was in a tree stand. He was on posted land so I thought I was alone on a windy day. He blamed me because he said he did not see my blaze orange on his way into the posted land (my back was to the tree).

He was clearly in the wrong , the thing they drive into your head in hunter safety course is never fire at something you cannot see or dont know what it is .

We had a fellow on a quail hunt once shoot someones house that bordered the plantations property , to make matters worse it was a police officers house . The guide not even 5 seconds before told the hunters not to fire in that direction . I never understood why we was hunting on the perimeter of the property anyhow as we had 3,800 acres .

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Thanks Jerry, I'm good with still-hunting, stalking, stand hunting, tree-stand hunting, ground blind hunting but I draw the line (for myself at least) at baiting and running dogs for deer. Again, that's just me.

IMO, and I have nothing to back up my opinion, Buckshot in the woods where there are other hunters - even those, and maybe especially those, in your own party - is more dangerous than a well-directed single bullet.





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My neighbor who taught me how to shoot when I was a kid and he is the coach of the local 4H skeet team , has a buckshot pellet in his neck from where a another hunter accidentally shot him . Luckily it was just that one stray pellet that hit him .

[Woodcock survey]

Each part of the country has it's own unique way of hunting. In some areas the topography dictates what will work and what will not. In areas of low deer numbers dogs, driving and bait will not do, deer numbers will not stand it.( Maine) In the south with no winter kill, vast areas of impenetrable swamp and low hunter numbers the deer can sustain the methods used. I hope to sit on the kitchen steps of Hampton plantation in SC and re-read Rutlige's Christmas hunt. In his time and place it was THE way to deer hunt and still seem to be.

[Stan Hillis]

Originally Posted by Daniel Carter

Each part of the country has it's own unique way of hunting. In some areas the topography dictates what will work and what will not. In areas of low deer numbers dogs, driving and bait will not do, deer numbers will not stand it.( Maine) In the south with no winter kill, vast areas of impenetrable swamp and low hunter numbers the deer can sustain the methods used. I hope to sit on the kitchen steps of Hampton plantation in SC and re-read Rutlige's Christmas hunt. In his time and place it was THE way to deer hunt and still seem to be.

A. Rutledge is one of my favorite outdoor authors of all time. I dearly love his writings, as it describes hunting in the South as I have known it. However .....

I have lived in "deer dogging" country all my life, on the edge of the Savannah River swamp. Hunted with dogs for many years, which requires using blue whistlers (buckshot). Finally gave it up (buckshot) when I realized just how inefficient it is. I once shot a big buck facing straight towards me at about 30 yards with 00 buck. He wheeled and ran, leaving only a few droplets of blood. Saw him the next year near that area in a 'bean field, but couldn't get a shot. The third year I killed him with a Model 99 .300 Savage. When I skinned him I found three of the buckshot encased in a clearish gristly substance, only about an inch deep, under the skin in his fore-chest.

Anything that can't penetrate any better than that is not for me, tho' I killed many deer with it in my life. No more.

Though not a legal caliber, and I don't hunt deer anymore, I'd sooner shoot them with a .22 Magnum than buckshot. At least I can put it exactly where it needs to go to do the job. Buckshot go where they want to go.

SRH

[charlie cleveland]

was looking for big bore shotguns today..there was listed a 8 gauge double barrel with 39 inch barrels for sale..it was listed at 1700 hundred dollars...this really got me excited kept reading it had done been sold about 6 months ago...i did not need that gun but if it had still been for sale my wife would have been mad at me...this gun had modern steel barrels...charlie

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland

was looking for big bore shotguns today..there was listed a 8 gauge double barrel with 39 inch barrels for sale..it was listed at 1700 hundred dollars...this really got me excited kept reading it had done been sold about 6 months ago...i did not need that gun but if it had still been for sale my wife would have been mad at me...this gun had modern steel barrels...charlie

Charlie ive been browsing a getting another 10 ga sxs for awhile now and havnt found any that stood out until recently . It ifs still for sale I may be able to pick it up in a couple of weeks . Sometimes if you can find someone selling from their personal collection they are priced alot better than buying from a vintage sxs dealer .