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Unread 04-12-2019, 05:45 PM   #1
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Joe, get a grip. You said that the gun came back to JJ from Gillette with "nothing done". That is obviously not true. It did not come back with "nothing done". Start from the beginning and tell us the real story.
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Mr Roberts did a Dog painting for me, very pleased with the work. Never thought if him as a gunsmith, artist was my understanding.

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This should never have been released from either shop...Period John G. damaged the gun in his case coloring, but JJ. should never have accepted John's work. This is a huge cluster F.ck that no one want's to take responsibility for! If they did it would never have come up on the forum
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I meant is he out any payments he made for the so called work done on this VH. Sad story
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Bachelder left , original right.

Bachelder and Turnbull charge more than some others.
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Bachelder left , original right.

Bachelder and Turnbull charge more than some others.
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How much Flitz did it take to get Bachelder colors toned down to be comparable to original faded Parker colors?

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[QUOTE=Patrick Lien;271525]Bruce,
How much Flitz did it take to get Bachelder colors toned down to be comparable to original faded Parker colors?

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Zero.

But I did wear a leather cattleman’s roping glove and rub rotationally side to side on the frame for a little while to produce wear on the edges. I suppose Flitz would have worked faster and I do favor it’s use on dulled barrels or dull browned frames to bring out some luster. I have suggested folks use Flitz or other metal polish on garishly done case colors.

What do you suggest ? I know that you have nice guns and good skills.
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John, your point is well taken and something I considered before posting. I think the photos speak for themselves. Regarding money, I do think it’s best to keep the specifics between the three parties. I will say that am out the initial payment but that was promised to be returned tomorrow and I expect that it will be. I am however, currently out a Parker shotgun. I expect this will be corrected one way or another with time. I don’t ascribe malice to what happened. Hopefully we can work together to resolve it. You are correct in that if a resolution had been offered, that would have made things exponentially better for all.
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In my opinion, it would be foolish to spend another dime on this gun. Any annealing will soften it, but it will erase any 'memory'. Annealing it would only soften it so that it could be mechanically manipulated, and that's a total black hole. I say this because I spent over 30 years making steel, then heat treating it. If a casting warped in heat treat, it was always possible to anneal, straighten, and re-heat treat. All luxuries I may have had are lost once a part is finish machined.
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Mr. Campbell makes a very valid point as there are two sides to every story and we haven't heard from either one of the other parties involved.

John Gillette and JJ Roberts have both done work for me and in every case it was well done. What happened to this particular Parker is a travesty to be sure but lets not get the cart to far in front of the horse in a rush to judgement regarding the other involved parties.
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